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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/05/29/attachment-parenting-has-not-caught-on-in-france/#comment-180876</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard of much support in the workplace and I doubt companies would offer much since France already has generous benefits for mothers. Mothers are expected to hire a nanny or leave their infant at a daycare (creche) if they go back to work. The system is apparently working though to get moms back to work because France offers very low cost daycare or some funds to help pay for a nanny. And I hear that creches are usually pretty high quality compared to the states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard of much support in the workplace and I doubt companies would offer much since France already has generous benefits for mothers. Mothers are expected to hire a nanny or leave their infant at a daycare (creche) if they go back to work. The system is apparently working though to get moms back to work because France offers very low cost daycare or some funds to help pay for a nanny. And I hear that creches are usually pretty high quality compared to the states.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the question is whether France is supportive of NURSING working mothers, i.e. do they have provisions to support moms who pump at work? Or onsite daycare so they can nurse at work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the question is whether France is supportive of NURSING working mothers, i.e. do they have provisions to support moms who pump at work? Or onsite daycare so they can nurse at work?</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an American and having worked as a business culture consultant and trainer in Germany and now France, it was my job to understand both foreign cultures in comparison to my own. 

Now that I&#039;m going to be a mom in a month (!), I&#039;ve been noticing that here in France, the stroller dominates and there&#039;s very little breastfeeding and baby carrying - especially compared to Germany. But, think of it culturally - the French are raised to be very independent and competitive from an early age and they have a high number of women working. Germany tends to have mothers staying at home - which, unfortunately, has hurt women in many ways as they feel they must choose between work and children and they have the lowest EU birthrate as a result. And the culture and government there is unsupportive of working mothers. France though, is VERY supportive of working mothers and as a result they have the highest birthrate in Europe. 

It&#039;s very challenging to be a French working mother practicing attachment parenting - especially if they must return to work and the workplace isn&#039;t supportive of it. It&#039;s slowly catching on though. I live near the Germany/Switzerland border so I figure that my public breastfeeding will be viewed as &quot;crazy American&quot; stuff or I&#039;ll be mistaken for a German tourist :-)  Either way, the point is that if France sees more of this, it will start to normalize in the culture - so BF on gals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American and having worked as a business culture consultant and trainer in Germany and now France, it was my job to understand both foreign cultures in comparison to my own. </p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;m going to be a mom in a month (!), I&#8217;ve been noticing that here in France, the stroller dominates and there&#8217;s very little breastfeeding and baby carrying &#8211; especially compared to Germany. But, think of it culturally &#8211; the French are raised to be very independent and competitive from an early age and they have a high number of women working. Germany tends to have mothers staying at home &#8211; which, unfortunately, has hurt women in many ways as they feel they must choose between work and children and they have the lowest EU birthrate as a result. And the culture and government there is unsupportive of working mothers. France though, is VERY supportive of working mothers and as a result they have the highest birthrate in Europe. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very challenging to be a French working mother practicing attachment parenting &#8211; especially if they must return to work and the workplace isn&#8217;t supportive of it. It&#8217;s slowly catching on though. I live near the Germany/Switzerland border so I figure that my public breastfeeding will be viewed as &#8220;crazy American&#8221; stuff or I&#8217;ll be mistaken for a German tourist <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Either way, the point is that if France sees more of this, it will start to normalize in the culture &#8211; so BF on gals!</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just wanted to share my own experiences as an American living in France. It seems breast-feeding is fairly encouraged here at the beginning, but that encouragement drops off radically at about 6 months and is down to zero by 12. My in-laws are mostly shocked to see that I haven&#039;t weaned my daughter, and all I can tell them  in reply is that I see no sense in stopping what I can do naturally only to go buy a replacement at the store. 

Baby-wearing, on the other hand, seems to have caught on. I would say about 25% of the moms (and dads!) that I see are doing in, though I still get a lot of questions about my 12-month-old being &quot;too heavy&quot;.

Probably the most difficult thing for me is the cry-it-out issue. While I am not an AP militant, don&#039;t go to groups, don&#039;t even own most of the recommended literature, etc., my own conscience has never felt comfortable with leaving my little one to wail and scream just because I want her in bed by 7:30 sharp. My in-laws are convinced that this is totally wrong, that crying is healthy, that she will be spoiled, etc... As a new mom trying to figure out what to do, this is terribly difficult for me. The lack of support wears on me and of course, I can&#039;t help but run things over in my mind and second-guess myself.

Anyway, no, I would not say that France as a whole is into the AP philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just wanted to share my own experiences as an American living in France. It seems breast-feeding is fairly encouraged here at the beginning, but that encouragement drops off radically at about 6 months and is down to zero by 12. My in-laws are mostly shocked to see that I haven&#8217;t weaned my daughter, and all I can tell them  in reply is that I see no sense in stopping what I can do naturally only to go buy a replacement at the store. </p>
<p>Baby-wearing, on the other hand, seems to have caught on. I would say about 25% of the moms (and dads!) that I see are doing in, though I still get a lot of questions about my 12-month-old being &#8220;too heavy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Probably the most difficult thing for me is the cry-it-out issue. While I am not an AP militant, don&#8217;t go to groups, don&#8217;t even own most of the recommended literature, etc., my own conscience has never felt comfortable with leaving my little one to wail and scream just because I want her in bed by 7:30 sharp. My in-laws are convinced that this is totally wrong, that crying is healthy, that she will be spoiled, etc&#8230; As a new mom trying to figure out what to do, this is terribly difficult for me. The lack of support wears on me and of course, I can&#8217;t help but run things over in my mind and second-guess myself.</p>
<p>Anyway, no, I would not say that France as a whole is into the AP philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: pats</title>
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		<dc:creator>pats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this site after googling &quot;French women do not breastfeed much&quot;, which in my experience is true. I live in Paris and have a 5 month old that I feel pressured to wean (from French family members, friends etc). In the States most of my friends breastfed their babies a long time (like 22 months) ...that is unheard of here! I would say about 1/2 of my female French friends didn&#039;t breastfeed and the ones that did only did for less than 6 months. I have no idea why that is.
Baby wearing is catching on I think (I can&#039;t imagine taking the metro with a stroller) and my daughter will be eating real food before she gets anything that comes out of a jar. That&#039;s what a Babycook is for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this site after googling &#8220;French women do not breastfeed much&#8221;, which in my experience is true. I live in Paris and have a 5 month old that I feel pressured to wean (from French family members, friends etc). In the States most of my friends breastfed their babies a long time (like 22 months) &#8230;that is unheard of here! I would say about 1/2 of my female French friends didn&#8217;t breastfeed and the ones that did only did for less than 6 months. I have no idea why that is.<br />
Baby wearing is catching on I think (I can&#8217;t imagine taking the metro with a stroller) and my daughter will be eating real food before she gets anything that comes out of a jar. That&#8217;s what a Babycook is for!</p>
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		<title>By: nicole in paris</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicole in paris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 05:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow- #10 a bit overly hostile?  Wow, I mean get a clue.  The writer is entitled to share her personal experience and opinion in her own article.  You sound really angry about it.  Maybe you didn&#039;t receive attachment parenting ;)

I was just going to add however, that in the 2 years since the article was written some things in France (well Paris most certainly) have evolved.  I live in Paris and EVERYWHERE you go, there are babies in wraps!  It is wonderful.  On the breastfeeding front, alas, that hasn&#039;t really changed.  Unless they are foreign, you are not going to see French women breastfeeding in public.  Most French women I spoke to about it have pretty much said the same thing, they are too shy!  

This cracks me up coming from a culture where breasts are plastered everywhere!  I really do NOT believe it is a question of being shy, but that is the agreed upon cultural explanation for it.  Although I do have French friends who breastfed in private until their babies were 3 months old - when they had to go back to work (after their PAID maternity leave!!!!!)

I am delighted to report though that I have never, ever gotten a strange look or even a smirk while breastfeeding my daughter in public.  No one has ever stared or made much of a notice - and I have breastfed my daughter all over the place, including the Lourve, Notre Dame etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow- #10 a bit overly hostile?  Wow, I mean get a clue.  The writer is entitled to share her personal experience and opinion in her own article.  You sound really angry about it.  Maybe you didn&#8217;t receive attachment parenting <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was just going to add however, that in the 2 years since the article was written some things in France (well Paris most certainly) have evolved.  I live in Paris and EVERYWHERE you go, there are babies in wraps!  It is wonderful.  On the breastfeeding front, alas, that hasn&#8217;t really changed.  Unless they are foreign, you are not going to see French women breastfeeding in public.  Most French women I spoke to about it have pretty much said the same thing, they are too shy!  </p>
<p>This cracks me up coming from a culture where breasts are plastered everywhere!  I really do NOT believe it is a question of being shy, but that is the agreed upon cultural explanation for it.  Although I do have French friends who breastfed in private until their babies were 3 months old &#8211; when they had to go back to work (after their PAID maternity leave!!!!!)</p>
<p>I am delighted to report though that I have never, ever gotten a strange look or even a smirk while breastfeeding my daughter in public.  No one has ever stared or made much of a notice &#8211; and I have breastfed my daughter all over the place, including the Lourve, Notre Dame etc.</p>
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		<title>By: HAHAHAsofunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>HAHAHAsofunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 02:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please. Seriously, please. Since when you think you are able to give an opinion on any country for staying there only for a few weeks. 
And where were you ? Paris ? Big cities or small towns ? That&#039;s like if I say canadians only eat moose and live in log cabins because I went on a fishing weekend in the forest. 
And your way to judge meals of French toddler by your quick and naive approch of &quot;I just look what is in the shelves in supermarket&quot;.... PLease, again. A vast majority of mother DO breastfeed their babies in France. Not for 2 years. And you saw bottles ? As a mother, you don&#039;t know that working mothers use pump to fill this bottles when they don&#039;t have time to breastfeed/have to go to work...???

Then, about parenting science, THANKS, I think we really have our own stuff. Attachment parenting has never ever been demonstrated to be beneficial by any scienfitic studies. But that&#039;s good to see how a more &quot;tolerant&quot; canadian is actually even more pretentious than a French by judging a whole culture as empty in the field of parenting. Thank you for your advise. If I may say, I&#039;m pretty sure that if I go to your country I won&#039;t find a sign of OUR parenting culture, and I won&#039;t go and say you are stupid as you did, because I understand your culture is very different from mine. 
And attachment parenting is actually pretty much AGAINST the mediterranean culture that I have, which is a very loving and boundaries creating culture, (see the italian mother) but at one moment let the child be an independant and social individual. 
But thanks again for your 1,5 cents of nothing, based on so few misunderstood and incomplete informations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please. Seriously, please. Since when you think you are able to give an opinion on any country for staying there only for a few weeks.<br />
And where were you ? Paris ? Big cities or small towns ? That&#8217;s like if I say canadians only eat moose and live in log cabins because I went on a fishing weekend in the forest.<br />
And your way to judge meals of French toddler by your quick and naive approch of &#8220;I just look what is in the shelves in supermarket&#8221;&#8230;. PLease, again. A vast majority of mother DO breastfeed their babies in France. Not for 2 years. And you saw bottles ? As a mother, you don&#8217;t know that working mothers use pump to fill this bottles when they don&#8217;t have time to breastfeed/have to go to work&#8230;???</p>
<p>Then, about parenting science, THANKS, I think we really have our own stuff. Attachment parenting has never ever been demonstrated to be beneficial by any scienfitic studies. But that&#8217;s good to see how a more &#8220;tolerant&#8221; canadian is actually even more pretentious than a French by judging a whole culture as empty in the field of parenting. Thank you for your advise. If I may say, I&#8217;m pretty sure that if I go to your country I won&#8217;t find a sign of OUR parenting culture, and I won&#8217;t go and say you are stupid as you did, because I understand your culture is very different from mine.<br />
And attachment parenting is actually pretty much AGAINST the mediterranean culture that I have, which is a very loving and boundaries creating culture, (see the italian mother) but at one moment let the child be an independant and social individual.<br />
But thanks again for your 1,5 cents of nothing, based on so few misunderstood and incomplete informations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too encountered some rude people in France and got mocked for my Québecois french accent (they responded to me in English when I spoke french! I swear my french isn&#039;t that bad LOL), but overall had such a great visit. Of course, I was a teenager so didn&#039;t pay any attention to kids/babies. Reading your post makes me want to fly over there and nurse my 2.5 yr old in front the Louvre *ha* (although maybe only tourists would be there?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too encountered some rude people in France and got mocked for my Québecois french accent (they responded to me in English when I spoke french! I swear my french isn&#8217;t that bad LOL), but overall had such a great visit. Of course, I was a teenager so didn&#8217;t pay any attention to kids/babies. Reading your post makes me want to fly over there and nurse my 2.5 yr old in front the Louvre *ha* (although maybe only tourists would be there?!)</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that doesn&#039;t really surprise me, especially after reading the French feminist Elisabeth Badinter&#039;s thoughts on motherhood! http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/12/france-feminism-elisabeth-badinter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that doesn&#8217;t really surprise me, especially after reading the French feminist Elisabeth Badinter&#8217;s thoughts on motherhood! <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/12/france-feminism-elisabeth-badinter" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/12/france-feminism-elisabeth-badinter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blogiversary Scavenger Hunt Answers &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogiversary Scavenger Hunt Answers &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What country did I visit where attachment parenting hasn’t really caught on? It was France. [...]</description>
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