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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/12/ill-hold-you-while-you-cry/#comment-101128</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son -- two in March -- hits when he&#039;s told no, and if he&#039;s in full, ridiculous tantrum mode, he will &lt;i&gt;headbutt&lt;/i&gt;. He tosses about and will bang his head on walls or floors (gently, which always makes me laugh) -- though thankfully that&#039;s happening less these days.

I snuggle him, and try to help him calm down, but if it doesn&#039;t work then I let him sit nearby (on the floor, usually, where he can&#039;t fling himself dramatically to the ground) and work it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son &#8212; two in March &#8212; hits when he&#8217;s told no, and if he&#8217;s in full, ridiculous tantrum mode, he will <i>headbutt</i>. He tosses about and will bang his head on walls or floors (gently, which always makes me laugh) &#8212; though thankfully that&#8217;s happening less these days.</p>
<p>I snuggle him, and try to help him calm down, but if it doesn&#8217;t work then I let him sit nearby (on the floor, usually, where he can&#8217;t fling himself dramatically to the ground) and work it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen (amoment2think)</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/12/ill-hold-you-while-you-cry/#comment-101121</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen (amoment2think)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of this post Annie. 

This, in particular, is brilliant: &quot;So rather than telling my children to stop crying or trying to distract them from that temper tantrum with an offer to play a game, go to the park or have a cookie, I’m going to try to let them cry, to hold them while they cry, and to help them to express their emotions. I’m going to validate their feelings rather than minimizing them. I’m going to allow them to be frustrated and accept that it is okay and that I can’t fix everything for them. I’m going to accept that the things that upset them sometimes seem silly to me, but that they are monumentally important to them and I need to respect that.&quot;

Where I disagree is that you need to be holding your child in order to comfort them. I don&#039;t think leaving them alone to cry is harmful in any way. Depending on the child. My daughter has taught me this lesson over and over and over again. From a very young age (like 5 months) she communicated very clearly to me that sometimes she wants to be in Mommy or Daddy&#039;s arms and other times she wants her space. Truly, she is a lot like me. I prefer to be alone when I am upset/stressed or tired. I think part of respecting our child&#039;s emotions is respecting that not all children need the same things from their parents to work through those emotions. So, for some children and some parents this &#039;crying in arms&#039; approach is brilliant and of others (like my kid) it just doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of this post Annie. </p>
<p>This, in particular, is brilliant: &#8220;So rather than telling my children to stop crying or trying to distract them from that temper tantrum with an offer to play a game, go to the park or have a cookie, I’m going to try to let them cry, to hold them while they cry, and to help them to express their emotions. I’m going to validate their feelings rather than minimizing them. I’m going to allow them to be frustrated and accept that it is okay and that I can’t fix everything for them. I’m going to accept that the things that upset them sometimes seem silly to me, but that they are monumentally important to them and I need to respect that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where I disagree is that you need to be holding your child in order to comfort them. I don&#8217;t think leaving them alone to cry is harmful in any way. Depending on the child. My daughter has taught me this lesson over and over and over again. From a very young age (like 5 months) she communicated very clearly to me that sometimes she wants to be in Mommy or Daddy&#8217;s arms and other times she wants her space. Truly, she is a lot like me. I prefer to be alone when I am upset/stressed or tired. I think part of respecting our child&#8217;s emotions is respecting that not all children need the same things from their parents to work through those emotions. So, for some children and some parents this &#8216;crying in arms&#8217; approach is brilliant and of others (like my kid) it just doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/12/ill-hold-you-while-you-cry/#comment-101117</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with the crying in arms approach is that doing too much of it does not teach a child any purposeful control over emotion or process.

Although like TheFeministBreeder, the cause is hugely important. Pain, illness, fear - these should not be dismissed or distracted away as that does not teach trust in those that give care. Confusion, impeded process, immature ability to express, these warrant facilitation. Behavior, demands that will not be met, manipulation - those do not warrant reinforcement. 

I don&#039;t like crying in arms as a panacea to a distressed child. I believe crying/tantrums are situational and the situation warrants a quick parental analysis. I also believe that children need to learn that while they are always entitled to have emotions, that that does not always mean that they get gratification in response to them if their emotions are stressful to others. That&#039;s a lesson that is learned slowly but still needs to be taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the crying in arms approach is that doing too much of it does not teach a child any purposeful control over emotion or process.</p>
<p>Although like TheFeministBreeder, the cause is hugely important. Pain, illness, fear &#8211; these should not be dismissed or distracted away as that does not teach trust in those that give care. Confusion, impeded process, immature ability to express, these warrant facilitation. Behavior, demands that will not be met, manipulation &#8211; those do not warrant reinforcement. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like crying in arms as a panacea to a distressed child. I believe crying/tantrums are situational and the situation warrants a quick parental analysis. I also believe that children need to learn that while they are always entitled to have emotions, that that does not always mean that they get gratification in response to them if their emotions are stressful to others. That&#8217;s a lesson that is learned slowly but still needs to be taught.</p>
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		<title>By: On My Mind: Tears</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/12/ill-hold-you-while-you-cry/#comment-93100</link>
		<dc:creator>On My Mind: Tears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at PhD in Parenting offers a good summary (with excellent links) of the practice of supporting children when they express big emotions, a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts (as always), Annie! I tend to take the same approach that you do - especially with babies. I think there&#039;s a world of difference between letting a baby cry in a lonely room and letting a baby cry in the warm arms of a loving parent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts (as always), Annie! I tend to take the same approach that you do &#8211; especially with babies. I think there&#8217;s a world of difference between letting a baby cry in a lonely room and letting a baby cry in the warm arms of a loving parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace @NaturallyEducational</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace @NaturallyEducational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter hates being held when she is frustrated. So, I have had to find other ways to support her. Sometimes, though, if she&#039;s hurting her brother, I do have to remove her. She&#039;s welcome back as soon as she&#039;s ready to be gentle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter hates being held when she is frustrated. So, I have had to find other ways to support her. Sometimes, though, if she&#8217;s hurting her brother, I do have to remove her. She&#8217;s welcome back as soon as she&#8217;s ready to be gentle.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoey @ Good Goog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoey @ Good Goog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a real problem with telling my daughter to stop crying. Tantrums can be challenging, upsetting and even humiliating for the parent, depending on the situation. But even so, during a tantrum I think she needs more love and support not less. When she has a full-blown tantrum it generally stops being about why she&#039;s having a tantrum in the first place. It could be because she wants something, she&#039;s tired, hungry, frustrated at her inability to do a certain thing - whatever. But at the point it crosses over into a tantrum her emotions take over and it&#039;s all about the overpowering, uncontrollable emotions and not whatever she was upset about.

I really want her to have a positive experience when she is expressing herself, both when she&#039;s happy and when she&#039;s sad.

One of the main things I do with her to help with tantrums is we go through photos and she points out which one&#039;s are happy, sad, angry, frustrated etc so that she can start to put a name to her feelings and they aren&#039;t so scary when they do happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a real problem with telling my daughter to stop crying. Tantrums can be challenging, upsetting and even humiliating for the parent, depending on the situation. But even so, during a tantrum I think she needs more love and support not less. When she has a full-blown tantrum it generally stops being about why she&#8217;s having a tantrum in the first place. It could be because she wants something, she&#8217;s tired, hungry, frustrated at her inability to do a certain thing &#8211; whatever. But at the point it crosses over into a tantrum her emotions take over and it&#8217;s all about the overpowering, uncontrollable emotions and not whatever she was upset about.</p>
<p>I really want her to have a positive experience when she is expressing herself, both when she&#8217;s happy and when she&#8217;s sad.</p>
<p>One of the main things I do with her to help with tantrums is we go through photos and she points out which one&#8217;s are happy, sad, angry, frustrated etc so that she can start to put a name to her feelings and they aren&#8217;t so scary when they do happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been dealing with more tantrums in the last 4 months or so due to my son&#039;s age (2) and I have, without thinking about it, gravitated to #4 when he&#039;s upset for no apparent reason. If he&#039;s upset that I&#039;m not letting him do what he wants to do, I will comfort him but also make it clear that it won&#039;t change my mind. I think it&#039;s important to realize that children are extremely smart little people. They have figured out from experience that when they cry they get what they want. It&#039;s a learned behavior from day one. 

I cry - I get food. 
I cry - I get a diaper change. 
I cry - I go to bed. 
I cry - I get a cuddle. 

Can we blame them for trying to use it to get a cookie? Or more time playing at the park? I hate to use the word, but it&#039;s an accurate descriptor - children have learned to manipulate situations. It doesn&#039;t help that very young ones don&#039;t know the difference between want and need. In many cases, I don&#039;t believe #4 is always the best option, particularly for strong-willed children like my son who start resorting to hitting when they aren&#039;t getting their way. I&#039;m not going to hit him back, but I have to get the message across that hitting isn&#039;t acceptable, which usually involves a form of discipline (not humiliation) like removing him from the situation until he&#039;s calmed down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been dealing with more tantrums in the last 4 months or so due to my son&#8217;s age (2) and I have, without thinking about it, gravitated to #4 when he&#8217;s upset for no apparent reason. If he&#8217;s upset that I&#8217;m not letting him do what he wants to do, I will comfort him but also make it clear that it won&#8217;t change my mind. I think it&#8217;s important to realize that children are extremely smart little people. They have figured out from experience that when they cry they get what they want. It&#8217;s a learned behavior from day one. </p>
<p>I cry &#8211; I get food.<br />
I cry &#8211; I get a diaper change.<br />
I cry &#8211; I go to bed.<br />
I cry &#8211; I get a cuddle. </p>
<p>Can we blame them for trying to use it to get a cookie? Or more time playing at the park? I hate to use the word, but it&#8217;s an accurate descriptor &#8211; children have learned to manipulate situations. It doesn&#8217;t help that very young ones don&#8217;t know the difference between want and need. In many cases, I don&#8217;t believe #4 is always the best option, particularly for strong-willed children like my son who start resorting to hitting when they aren&#8217;t getting their way. I&#8217;m not going to hit him back, but I have to get the message across that hitting isn&#8217;t acceptable, which usually involves a form of discipline (not humiliation) like removing him from the situation until he&#8217;s calmed down.</p>
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		<title>By: kgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>kgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak to a situation where tantrums are chronic or indicitive of a greater behavioural issue, but for my own kids, who are not prone to tantrums (I can count on one hand the number of full-ons my kids have collectively had), it&#039;s number 4 all the way. The first thing I try to do is remove them from the stimulus/situation causing the tantrum, but I have totally learned that what my kids need to do, is &#039;express&#039; themselves for a little while, and then come into my open arms. When I recently wrote about how humiliated/angry I was when my 2 year old had a shit storm of a freak out in a restaurant, a trusted friend of our family&#039;s, who is also a psychologist, told me that I should be consoled by the fact that my kids trust me enough and feel secure enough to express themselves and know that they will still be loved and not shunned. I was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak to a situation where tantrums are chronic or indicitive of a greater behavioural issue, but for my own kids, who are not prone to tantrums (I can count on one hand the number of full-ons my kids have collectively had), it&#8217;s number 4 all the way. The first thing I try to do is remove them from the stimulus/situation causing the tantrum, but I have totally learned that what my kids need to do, is &#8216;express&#8217; themselves for a little while, and then come into my open arms. When I recently wrote about how humiliated/angry I was when my 2 year old had a shit storm of a freak out in a restaurant, a trusted friend of our family&#8217;s, who is also a psychologist, told me that I should be consoled by the fact that my kids trust me enough and feel secure enough to express themselves and know that they will still be loved and not shunned. I was.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. They should be all fixed now. The combination of me migrating to self-hosted and Mothering reorganizing its own site meant that the links in this post took quite a hit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. They should be all fixed now. The combination of me migrating to self-hosted and Mothering reorganizing its own site meant that the links in this post took quite a hit!</p>
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