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		<title>By: Not all breast pumps are made equal (OUCH!) &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/31/you-cant-bring-your-suv-on-the-bus/#comment-114317</link>
		<dc:creator>Not all breast pumps are made equal (OUCH!) &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] uneasy about choosing. In particular, the two things that I found most difficult to choose were a stroller (we didn&#8217;t end up buying one until after he was born) and a breast pump. None of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] uneasy about choosing. In particular, the two things that I found most difficult to choose were a stroller (we didn&#8217;t end up buying one until after he was born) and a breast pump. None of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/31/you-cant-bring-your-suv-on-the-bus/#comment-25457</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I baby-wore (and still do actually) my first child most of the time while out and about, but with number two due in 12 weeks, I am not sure what my new arrangements will be. I am fairly sure I&#039;ll have to have at least one of them in a stroller and one in a sling, as my eldest will only be 20 months when bub is born and cannot at all be relied on to stay close to me/not run into the road etc. My other option is bubby in a sling, toddler on a harness, but that may be a whole other kettle of fish :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I baby-wore (and still do actually) my first child most of the time while out and about, but with number two due in 12 weeks, I am not sure what my new arrangements will be. I am fairly sure I&#8217;ll have to have at least one of them in a stroller and one in a sling, as my eldest will only be 20 months when bub is born and cannot at all be relied on to stay close to me/not run into the road etc. My other option is bubby in a sling, toddler on a harness, but that may be a whole other kettle of fish <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/31/you-cant-bring-your-suv-on-the-bus/#comment-25435</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@natalieushka:&lt;/strong&gt; If you use the stroller as a walking aid or other disability support then it should ABSOLUTELY be allowed from that perspective. If most people were reasonable about when they need/don&#039;t need these large strollers then I don&#039;t think it would be unreasonable to say that anyone can bring one when they need to (e.g. doing a big shopping trip). But when everyone uses them all the time, that is when it becomes a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@natalieushka:</strong> If you use the stroller as a walking aid or other disability support then it should ABSOLUTELY be allowed from that perspective. If most people were reasonable about when they need/don&#8217;t need these large strollers then I don&#8217;t think it would be unreasonable to say that anyone can bring one when they need to (e.g. doing a big shopping trip). But when everyone uses them all the time, that is when it becomes a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: natalieushka</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/31/you-cant-bring-your-suv-on-the-bus/#comment-25433</link>
		<dc:creator>natalieushka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am late to the party because I&#039;ve just discovered your blog (which I am finding endlessly interesting while I am nursing the babe).

The thing that struck me about your comments about strollers on buses was this:

&quot;Seniors and people with disabilities cannot be transported in baby carriers or in umbrella strollers. They need the space on the bus for their wheelchairs and their walkers. Parents with small children that wish to ride the bus (which I applaud, by the way), should find more compact ways of transporting their kids.&quot;

I am a person with a disability AND a parent with a small child, who sometimes wants to ride the bus.  I cannot carry my son in his wrap for long distances, so I have to use a stroller most of the time.  I am also unsteady on my feet so the stroller is as much a walking aid for me as it is a conveyance for him - that&#039;s why we chose a four-wheeled, substantial stroller.  One of those umbrella strollers would collapse the first time I needed to put any weight on it.

No intent to pick, since I know I&#039;m way in the minority here and most of the SUV size strollers are being pushed by able-bodied moms, but just wanted to add a perspective that your readers might not have considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am late to the party because I&#8217;ve just discovered your blog (which I am finding endlessly interesting while I am nursing the babe).</p>
<p>The thing that struck me about your comments about strollers on buses was this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Seniors and people with disabilities cannot be transported in baby carriers or in umbrella strollers. They need the space on the bus for their wheelchairs and their walkers. Parents with small children that wish to ride the bus (which I applaud, by the way), should find more compact ways of transporting their kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am a person with a disability AND a parent with a small child, who sometimes wants to ride the bus.  I cannot carry my son in his wrap for long distances, so I have to use a stroller most of the time.  I am also unsteady on my feet so the stroller is as much a walking aid for me as it is a conveyance for him &#8211; that&#8217;s why we chose a four-wheeled, substantial stroller.  One of those umbrella strollers would collapse the first time I needed to put any weight on it.</p>
<p>No intent to pick, since I know I&#8217;m way in the minority here and most of the SUV size strollers are being pushed by able-bodied moms, but just wanted to add a perspective that your readers might not have considered.</p>
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		<title>By: A German-style woven wrap is a great investment &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>A German-style woven wrap is a great investment &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I still believe in the value of wraps. If you are a committed babywearer and plan to wear one or more children a lot for a long time, a good woven wrap is worth the investment. Almost everyone puts down a good chunk of change for a decent stroller. I&#8217;d rather spend the money on a decent woven wrap like a Storchenwiege, Hoppediz and Didymos and buy a cheap stroller. But I&#8217;m not much of a stroller person. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I still believe in the value of wraps. If you are a committed babywearer and plan to wear one or more children a lot for a long time, a good woven wrap is worth the investment. Almost everyone puts down a good chunk of change for a decent stroller. I&#8217;d rather spend the money on a decent woven wrap like a Storchenwiege, Hoppediz and Didymos and buy a cheap stroller. But I&#8217;m not much of a stroller person. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am on both sides of the fence.  We went to Germany with nothing but our 15 month old daughter and our Ergo.  Now at barely 3, she walks pushing her doll stroller while I carry my 20 pound 5 month old son in the Beco.

But, we live in Chicago.  If I am doing an outing at the zoo, downtown, the arboretum, etc, I NEED to bring a stroller if only just for all our stuff (diapers, change of clothes for the potty trained one, toys to keep her occupied in the train, snacks/lunch, my camera/purse, etc), and it is great for nap space for her too.  I have a Phil and Ted sport with doubles seat that I love, and that folds down pretty flat and is relatively light, but I still can&#039;t get both kids, the stuff, and the stroller on and off the train by myself.  

I get super thrilled when things are accommodating to strollers, while still recognizing that it is way easier to babywear. 

So that&#039;s my wishy washy stroller manifesto.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on both sides of the fence.  We went to Germany with nothing but our 15 month old daughter and our Ergo.  Now at barely 3, she walks pushing her doll stroller while I carry my 20 pound 5 month old son in the Beco.</p>
<p>But, we live in Chicago.  If I am doing an outing at the zoo, downtown, the arboretum, etc, I NEED to bring a stroller if only just for all our stuff (diapers, change of clothes for the potty trained one, toys to keep her occupied in the train, snacks/lunch, my camera/purse, etc), and it is great for nap space for her too.  I have a Phil and Ted sport with doubles seat that I love, and that folds down pretty flat and is relatively light, but I still can&#8217;t get both kids, the stuff, and the stroller on and off the train by myself.  </p>
<p>I get super thrilled when things are accommodating to strollers, while still recognizing that it is way easier to babywear. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s my wishy washy stroller manifesto.  <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you posted this awhile ago, but I only happened upon your website recently and I am working my way through your archives. Good stuff, by the way.

Anyways, our son is only a few months old and we don&#039;t have a stroller either. Actually, here in Japan, the vast majority of people don&#039;t, they are just too awkward on public transportation.

I love the fact that most babies are worn here, or if they are able to they are walking. The only difference, once kids are of walking age here, they usually are also carrying their own little backpack for toys, drinks and snacks that they need or want. Sure does free up moms hands!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you posted this awhile ago, but I only happened upon your website recently and I am working my way through your archives. Good stuff, by the way.</p>
<p>Anyways, our son is only a few months old and we don&#8217;t have a stroller either. Actually, here in Japan, the vast majority of people don&#8217;t, they are just too awkward on public transportation.</p>
<p>I love the fact that most babies are worn here, or if they are able to they are walking. The only difference, once kids are of walking age here, they usually are also carrying their own little backpack for toys, drinks and snacks that they need or want. Sure does free up moms hands!</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/31/you-cant-bring-your-suv-on-the-bus/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jane - thanks for stopping by!

I would say that my son was more cooperative about walking safely by age 3, but I don&#039;t know if it was an age thing or whether the constant reminders and teaching about the dangers of the street finally started to sink in.

We just continued to insist that he had to hold our hand. If he refused, I would take him aside away from the street and explain again why he had to hold my hand. If he still refused, I probably would have carried him across the street and then explained it again.

There are a lot of things where I let my kids take the lead and empower them to make their own decisions, but things related to safety, like sitting in your car seat in the car, using a helmet on a bike, being careful crossing the street (holding hands and/or looking both ways depending on age), wearing a lifejacket in a boat, etc. are non-negotiable. I have a very no-nonsense attitude when it comes to those things.

There have been tantrums, but I just chalk that up to part of the learning process. I&#039;d rather deal with a tantrum here and there and have him walk than put him in the stroller indefinetly and put off having the road safety messages sink in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jane &#8211; thanks for stopping by!</p>
<p>I would say that my son was more cooperative about walking safely by age 3, but I don&#8217;t know if it was an age thing or whether the constant reminders and teaching about the dangers of the street finally started to sink in.</p>
<p>We just continued to insist that he had to hold our hand. If he refused, I would take him aside away from the street and explain again why he had to hold my hand. If he still refused, I probably would have carried him across the street and then explained it again.</p>
<p>There are a lot of things where I let my kids take the lead and empower them to make their own decisions, but things related to safety, like sitting in your car seat in the car, using a helmet on a bike, being careful crossing the street (holding hands and/or looking both ways depending on age), wearing a lifejacket in a boat, etc. are non-negotiable. I have a very no-nonsense attitude when it comes to those things.</p>
<p>There have been tantrums, but I just chalk that up to part of the learning process. I&#8217;d rather deal with a tantrum here and there and have him walk than put him in the stroller indefinetly and put off having the road safety messages sink in.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! My daughter is 2 1/2 and is good at walking but we live on a very busy street and although I still wear her sometimes, I do use the stroller now more than ever before (It was pretty useless the first 2 years). She will fight against holding hands across the street and I end up having to carry her which is really awkward and involves tantrums. Do you think by age 3 most kids are more cooperative about walking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! My daughter is 2 1/2 and is good at walking but we live on a very busy street and although I still wear her sometimes, I do use the stroller now more than ever before (It was pretty useless the first 2 years). She will fight against holding hands across the street and I end up having to carry her which is really awkward and involves tantrums. Do you think by age 3 most kids are more cooperative about walking?</p>
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		<title>By: Being punished for our weaknesses &#171; PhD in Parenting Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Being punished for our weaknesses &#171; PhD in Parenting Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would buy at the market the whole way back while at the same time keeping tabs on her big brother. I hate the stroller. I really do. But I think it was the lesser of two evils [...]</description>
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