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		<title>By: Up All Night: The Birth (Yikes!) — PhD in Parenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Up All Night: The Birth (Yikes!) — PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a homebirth with an independent (so known) midwife in the UK. I didn&#039;t need a birth plan as such for all the reasons you mention.

However, I did create a document that recorded my wishes in the event of intervention being required. There was a fair bit of &#039;I will not consent to&#039; in there and some specific things that I know go against standard policy at our local hospital.

I never had to test it&#039;s effectiveness. I did transfer after my first birth with a retained placenta but there aren&#039;t really any options with that.

I think the issue of control is vitally important. Birth is inherently uncontrollable, what will happen will happen, but my reading has lead me to conclude that women who lose control of what is DONE to them tend to end up feeling traumatised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a homebirth with an independent (so known) midwife in the UK. I didn&#8217;t need a birth plan as such for all the reasons you mention.</p>
<p>However, I did create a document that recorded my wishes in the event of intervention being required. There was a fair bit of &#8216;I will not consent to&#8217; in there and some specific things that I know go against standard policy at our local hospital.</p>
<p>I never had to test it&#8217;s effectiveness. I did transfer after my first birth with a retained placenta but there aren&#8217;t really any options with that.</p>
<p>I think the issue of control is vitally important. Birth is inherently uncontrollable, what will happen will happen, but my reading has lead me to conclude that women who lose control of what is DONE to them tend to end up feeling traumatised.</p>
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		<title>By: carolb</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The act of writing my birth plan was as much about getting my head around what was going to happen, some mental preparation for myself, as it was about listing things I did or didn&#039;t want, although those were included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The act of writing my birth plan was as much about getting my head around what was going to happen, some mental preparation for myself, as it was about listing things I did or didn&#8217;t want, although those were included.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t have a birth plan for my first birth. I had a natural hospital birth, and looking back, I was lucky.

I wasn&#039;t planning on doing a birth plan for my second birth (midwife-attended) because I was pretty sure we were on the same page at the midwives. But they encouraged me to outline a general plan, specifying things like &quot;no formula, no offer of pain medication, no pitocin&quot; - the things that would be important if for some reason the midwives weren&#039;t there. Obviously if there was transfer of care it would be for medical reasons so some things may have become necessary, but it&#039;s good to have the basics documented. 

Oh, and we didn&#039;t document everything, including the fact that we chose not to administer the eye goop. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t have a birth plan for my first birth. I had a natural hospital birth, and looking back, I was lucky.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t planning on doing a birth plan for my second birth (midwife-attended) because I was pretty sure we were on the same page at the midwives. But they encouraged me to outline a general plan, specifying things like &#8220;no formula, no offer of pain medication, no pitocin&#8221; &#8211; the things that would be important if for some reason the midwives weren&#8217;t there. Obviously if there was transfer of care it would be for medical reasons so some things may have become necessary, but it&#8217;s good to have the basics documented. </p>
<p>Oh, and we didn&#8217;t document everything, including the fact that we chose not to administer the eye goop. <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mel Gallant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel Gallant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my birth plan helped me feel prepared in that I could state my wishes while accepting that I can&#039;t control the entire birthing experience. When I gave birth to my daughter, I too was in the care of an obstetrician but also had a doula to support my husband and me through the labour and delivery process. 

The best advice my doula gave me was to research all my options - which she helped me do - and then develop a birth plan that stated my intentions for labour and delivery with the knowledge that some things in labour and delivery can&#039;t be predicted. 

Because my goal was to have a natural birth, my birth plan indicated that I didn&#039;t want any interventions suggested to me unless it was necessary to the health of me and my baby. Well I ended up being induced because I was 10 days overdue and my doctor&#039;s &quot;standard procedure&quot; is to induce at that point out of concern the baby&#039;s health. I did feel pressured to be induced and with my daughter born with quite a lot of vernix, I think she wasn&#039;t late so much as she was not ready to be born yet.

That intervention aside, my birth plan helped me to focus on my goal to labour without any pain management medication. My birth plan explicitly stated I was aware of the pain relief options available to me and didn&#039;t want them offered to me - I would ask for them. My doula suggested my husband and I come up with a codeword (ladybug) that I would say to indicate to them I was thinking I needed pain relief. Fortunately I never had to use it!

Should I have another child, I will go the birth plan route again most definitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my birth plan helped me feel prepared in that I could state my wishes while accepting that I can&#8217;t control the entire birthing experience. When I gave birth to my daughter, I too was in the care of an obstetrician but also had a doula to support my husband and me through the labour and delivery process. </p>
<p>The best advice my doula gave me was to research all my options &#8211; which she helped me do &#8211; and then develop a birth plan that stated my intentions for labour and delivery with the knowledge that some things in labour and delivery can&#8217;t be predicted. </p>
<p>Because my goal was to have a natural birth, my birth plan indicated that I didn&#8217;t want any interventions suggested to me unless it was necessary to the health of me and my baby. Well I ended up being induced because I was 10 days overdue and my doctor&#8217;s &#8220;standard procedure&#8221; is to induce at that point out of concern the baby&#8217;s health. I did feel pressured to be induced and with my daughter born with quite a lot of vernix, I think she wasn&#8217;t late so much as she was not ready to be born yet.</p>
<p>That intervention aside, my birth plan helped me to focus on my goal to labour without any pain management medication. My birth plan explicitly stated I was aware of the pain relief options available to me and didn&#8217;t want them offered to me &#8211; I would ask for them. My doula suggested my husband and I come up with a codeword (ladybug) that I would say to indicate to them I was thinking I needed pain relief. Fortunately I never had to use it!</p>
<p>Should I have another child, I will go the birth plan route again most definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Eve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mama Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t really understand everything Katrina was trying to say. This quote: &quot;Ellen Hodnett, a professor of nursing specializing in childbirth at the University of Toronto, says that when women report disappointment after a birth, it has little to do with the plan, and everything to do with feeling like they received impersonal care. &quot;Over and over, when women say they&#039;re disappointed, it&#039;s not, &#039;Did I get the water birth,&#039; or, &#039;Were the lights down low,&#039; it&#039;s about, &#039;Did I feel I got the best possible support and involvement in decision making?&#039;&quot;&quot; seems to validate the need for a birth plan -- to get the &quot;best possible support and involvement in decision making&quot;, but Katrina seems to think a birth plan instead compounds the pressure for perfection in all areas of our life. 

I was fortunate enough to have two out-of-hospital births with midwives I loved, trusted, and were incredibly respectful, so I can&#039;t speak from experience about the need for one. But from the experiences my friends shared with me, I would absolutely recommend doing one if you think your desires would be out-of-the-ordinary. In the U.S., I would also recommend checking with your caregiver and the facility you plan to give birth in to understand their policies. With my second child, I chose to have a home birth (paid for out-of-pocket because it wasn&#039;t covered by my insurance) because the only hospital within 100 miles of where I live would not make exceptions to their policies of IVs and continuous fetal monitoring. The first step to making sure your voice is heard is finding a caregiver who will listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t really understand everything Katrina was trying to say. This quote: &#8220;Ellen Hodnett, a professor of nursing specializing in childbirth at the University of Toronto, says that when women report disappointment after a birth, it has little to do with the plan, and everything to do with feeling like they received impersonal care. &#8220;Over and over, when women say they&#8217;re disappointed, it&#8217;s not, &#8216;Did I get the water birth,&#8217; or, &#8216;Were the lights down low,&#8217; it&#8217;s about, &#8216;Did I feel I got the best possible support and involvement in decision making?&#8217;&#8221;" seems to validate the need for a birth plan &#8212; to get the &#8220;best possible support and involvement in decision making&#8221;, but Katrina seems to think a birth plan instead compounds the pressure for perfection in all areas of our life. </p>
<p>I was fortunate enough to have two out-of-hospital births with midwives I loved, trusted, and were incredibly respectful, so I can&#8217;t speak from experience about the need for one. But from the experiences my friends shared with me, I would absolutely recommend doing one if you think your desires would be out-of-the-ordinary. In the U.S., I would also recommend checking with your caregiver and the facility you plan to give birth in to understand their policies. With my second child, I chose to have a home birth (paid for out-of-pocket because it wasn&#8217;t covered by my insurance) because the only hospital within 100 miles of where I live would not make exceptions to their policies of IVs and continuous fetal monitoring. The first step to making sure your voice is heard is finding a caregiver who will listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If nothing else, the process of developing a birth plan led me to research and think about what type of birth was best for me and my baby. &quot;

That sums it up for me. By reading about everything I could about giving birth and then writing up my birth plan it made me knowledgeable enough so that when my OB or nurses were giving me information I wasn&#039;t completely clueless. I had some interventions, but I was in agreement with the medical team and nothing was ever pushed on me. I also had the great help of my husband and my sister who had delivered 2 children naturally to help out and talk things through with me.

I&#039;m going to have my second baby any day/week now and I&#039;m going to write up a second birth plan and am very happy knowing where I will be giving birth that they will read and talk/discuss with me. They were totally against a c-section which makes me proud to be delivering at this hospital! And very VERY pro-breastfeeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If nothing else, the process of developing a birth plan led me to research and think about what type of birth was best for me and my baby. &#8221;</p>
<p>That sums it up for me. By reading about everything I could about giving birth and then writing up my birth plan it made me knowledgeable enough so that when my OB or nurses were giving me information I wasn&#8217;t completely clueless. I had some interventions, but I was in agreement with the medical team and nothing was ever pushed on me. I also had the great help of my husband and my sister who had delivered 2 children naturally to help out and talk things through with me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to have my second baby any day/week now and I&#8217;m going to write up a second birth plan and am very happy knowing where I will be giving birth that they will read and talk/discuss with me. They were totally against a c-section which makes me proud to be delivering at this hospital! And very VERY pro-breastfeeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a birth plan for my first which was ignored completely by the nursing staff who walked in and put in an IV before I honestly had a clue what was happening.  I&#039;d gotten to the hospital in transition and was kinda in my own zone and not aware of what was going on around me.  I looked at my arm and told the nurse to take it out - she said &quot;you need a full bag of fluid before your epidural&quot; to which I replied &quot;I&#039;m not having an epidural, I&#039;m having a baby... right now!&quot; (long story short, had the baby 45 minutes later without any pain meds or other intervention. OB (DO) arrived and barely got gloves on as baby came flying out)

Fast forward to baby #2 -- TOTALLY different hospital (a birthing center feel) with a midwife.  I had no written birth plan this time - simply an understanding with the midwife that I wanted a water birth with no interventions.  Arrived at the hospital in transition again, hopped into the tub and within 20 minutes had birthed my daughter!

My belief is that the process of writing the birth plan for my son&#039;s birth (as well as, rereading it, rewriting it a few times and then handing it to the staff) helped develop and solidify in me the mindset I would need to stand firm in what I wanted for my labor and my son&#039;s birth. I had it in writing that I wanted the birth to go naturally.  It was a fight from start to finish, but that was due to the location of the birth and not to my mindset or plan.  

My midwife was reassuring from the first time I met her (at a Holistic Moms Network meeting - not in her office!) and I knew that my desire for a non-interventionist birth would be respected and acted upon - which is exactly how it went.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a birth plan for my first which was ignored completely by the nursing staff who walked in and put in an IV before I honestly had a clue what was happening.  I&#8217;d gotten to the hospital in transition and was kinda in my own zone and not aware of what was going on around me.  I looked at my arm and told the nurse to take it out &#8211; she said &#8220;you need a full bag of fluid before your epidural&#8221; to which I replied &#8220;I&#8217;m not having an epidural, I&#8217;m having a baby&#8230; right now!&#8221; (long story short, had the baby 45 minutes later without any pain meds or other intervention. OB (DO) arrived and barely got gloves on as baby came flying out)</p>
<p>Fast forward to baby #2 &#8212; TOTALLY different hospital (a birthing center feel) with a midwife.  I had no written birth plan this time &#8211; simply an understanding with the midwife that I wanted a water birth with no interventions.  Arrived at the hospital in transition again, hopped into the tub and within 20 minutes had birthed my daughter!</p>
<p>My belief is that the process of writing the birth plan for my son&#8217;s birth (as well as, rereading it, rewriting it a few times and then handing it to the staff) helped develop and solidify in me the mindset I would need to stand firm in what I wanted for my labor and my son&#8217;s birth. I had it in writing that I wanted the birth to go naturally.  It was a fight from start to finish, but that was due to the location of the birth and not to my mindset or plan.  </p>
<p>My midwife was reassuring from the first time I met her (at a Holistic Moms Network meeting &#8211; not in her office!) and I knew that my desire for a non-interventionist birth would be respected and acted upon &#8211; which is exactly how it went.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think anyone who has experienced birth (or life, for that matter) knows very well that control is mostly an illusion and luck has a lot more to do with what happens to us than we might like to admit.
That doesn&#039;t mean you don&#039;t educate yourself on the options. That doesn&#039;t mean you don&#039;t set goals. That doesn&#039;t mean that you surrender and relegate yourself to the passenger seat....
Maybe having a plan makes you pushy... but not having one puts you at risk for a more fearful experience of birth. With both my kids, the birth plan was more about the process, not the end result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think anyone who has experienced birth (or life, for that matter) knows very well that control is mostly an illusion and luck has a lot more to do with what happens to us than we might like to admit.<br />
That doesn&#8217;t mean you don&#8217;t educate yourself on the options. That doesn&#8217;t mean you don&#8217;t set goals. That doesn&#8217;t mean that you surrender and relegate yourself to the passenger seat&#8230;.<br />
Maybe having a plan makes you pushy&#8230; but not having one puts you at risk for a more fearful experience of birth. With both my kids, the birth plan was more about the process, not the end result.</p>
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		<title>By: Lactivism and the homelessness problem &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lactivism and the homelessness problem &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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