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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/23/money-money-money-money/#comment-195348</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This year we chose the charity for our kids (because so many things go into making the decision about which ones to support), but chose one where they can choose which &quot;gifts&quot; to purchase with their funds - i.e. baby goat vs. mango tree vs. school supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year we chose the charity for our kids (because so many things go into making the decision about which ones to support), but chose one where they can choose which &#8220;gifts&#8221; to purchase with their funds &#8211; i.e. baby goat vs. mango tree vs. school supplies.</p>
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		<title>By: Cass</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/23/money-money-money-money/#comment-195290</link>
		<dc:creator>Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We give our 6.5 year old a weekly allowance.  She has 3 jars, give, save, and spend, and each week has to allocate her allowance into those jars.  But we allow her to decide how much, and  it typically works out to the formula above.  Once a month she deposits her savings into the bank (it might only be $2) but she is responsible for getting it to the bank.  She also gets to decide which charity she wants to give her money too.  This month she is thinking about the SIERRA club.  We plan to match her donation to her charity. It&#039;s worked well, the spend, save, give part.  And it is not tied to chores.  However, we have a &quot;backtalk&quot; jar, and whenever she talks back to us she is expected to put a quarter in the jar.  I am just not sure this is working since she spends most of her spend money on talking back and is not really saving it for something she wants, and it&#039;s not much of a deterrent to talking back, so I think we need to reevaluate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We give our 6.5 year old a weekly allowance.  She has 3 jars, give, save, and spend, and each week has to allocate her allowance into those jars.  But we allow her to decide how much, and  it typically works out to the formula above.  Once a month she deposits her savings into the bank (it might only be $2) but she is responsible for getting it to the bank.  She also gets to decide which charity she wants to give her money too.  This month she is thinking about the SIERRA club.  We plan to match her donation to her charity. It&#8217;s worked well, the spend, save, give part.  And it is not tied to chores.  However, we have a &#8220;backtalk&#8221; jar, and whenever she talks back to us she is expected to put a quarter in the jar.  I am just not sure this is working since she spends most of her spend money on talking back and is not really saving it for something she wants, and it&#8217;s not much of a deterrent to talking back, so I think we need to reevaluate.</p>
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		<title>By: On introducing allowance</title>
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		<dc:creator>On introducing allowance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some thinking and research, we decided to implement a spend-save-give system (as inspired by PhD in Parenting) to teach our greedy kid some charity and saving habits. We messed around with the formula a little [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some thinking and research, we decided to implement a spend-save-give system (as inspired by PhD in Parenting) to teach our greedy kid some charity and saving habits. We messed around with the formula a little [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FoxyKate</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/23/money-money-money-money/#comment-92472</link>
		<dc:creator>FoxyKate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that 3 is too young, only because my own kids simply didn&#039;t *get it* at three.  My three year old happily sorts coins and puts them in and out of a piggy bank and knows what money IS, but it has no value to her in relation to the world.  And until my twins started first grade this year &amp; much of their math so far has been tied into reading a clock and counting coins, they didn&#039;t, either.

My oldest is almost 9 and did receive an allowance for a very brief time, but unfortuantely, we were too broke to sustain it and really needed that $2 a week for other things.  Sad.  But he is more interested in buying stuff now &amp; I feel often like my &quot;yes&quot; and &quot;no&quot; are kind of arbitrary and I would love for them all to have a better idea of the value of money and how important it is to save and what we DID start telling them from a young age is that there is no college savings account being kept for them - they need to bust ass when it comes to their education.

Anyway, thanks for this post and the links.  I did decide that I&#039;m going to start an allowance for my oldest come the new year.  I have to decide whether or  not to include the twins.  And they are all generally helpful around the house - my son is a great room straightener, they&#039;ll all happily set or clean off the dining table, and they&#039;d love to be more hands-on with meal prep.  I think that the problem is actually that some other jobs, like laundry or taking out garbage, really aren&#039;t kid-appropriate in our situation logistically.  

My son asked me last night why I wasn&#039;t punishing his sister for hurting him and I said, honestly, I just don&#039;t think that the kind of punishment you are expecting me to dole out to her works - and lo, I&#039;ve never punished you in that way, either.  So the idea that I would pay them for additional tasks on top of working together to maintain a household is something that I&#039;ve been struggling with.  I&#039;m looking forward to reading more &amp; giving this lots of thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that 3 is too young, only because my own kids simply didn&#8217;t *get it* at three.  My three year old happily sorts coins and puts them in and out of a piggy bank and knows what money IS, but it has no value to her in relation to the world.  And until my twins started first grade this year &amp; much of their math so far has been tied into reading a clock and counting coins, they didn&#8217;t, either.</p>
<p>My oldest is almost 9 and did receive an allowance for a very brief time, but unfortuantely, we were too broke to sustain it and really needed that $2 a week for other things.  Sad.  But he is more interested in buying stuff now &amp; I feel often like my &#8220;yes&#8221; and &#8220;no&#8221; are kind of arbitrary and I would love for them all to have a better idea of the value of money and how important it is to save and what we DID start telling them from a young age is that there is no college savings account being kept for them &#8211; they need to bust ass when it comes to their education.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for this post and the links.  I did decide that I&#8217;m going to start an allowance for my oldest come the new year.  I have to decide whether or  not to include the twins.  And they are all generally helpful around the house &#8211; my son is a great room straightener, they&#8217;ll all happily set or clean off the dining table, and they&#8217;d love to be more hands-on with meal prep.  I think that the problem is actually that some other jobs, like laundry or taking out garbage, really aren&#8217;t kid-appropriate in our situation logistically.  </p>
<p>My son asked me last night why I wasn&#8217;t punishing his sister for hurting him and I said, honestly, I just don&#8217;t think that the kind of punishment you are expecting me to dole out to her works &#8211; and lo, I&#8217;ve never punished you in that way, either.  So the idea that I would pay them for additional tasks on top of working together to maintain a household is something that I&#8217;ve been struggling with.  I&#8217;m looking forward to reading more &amp; giving this lots of thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/23/money-money-money-money/#comment-92470</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My oldest son is almost 8 and we are still settling into our own allowance system.  Thus far he doesn&#039;t really need a weekly stipend...and to be honest, I forget to hand over a weekly allowance.  I think in the new year we will arrange a weekly amount for him and my 5 y/o son.  I&#039;m divided over whether or not to include the 3 y/o son.  He isn&#039;t really old enough to need money, but his awareness of money and having the ability to buy things is greater than my oldest son&#039;s was at that age, because of his position as youngest child with two older brothers.

We do not link chores to any reward system, financial or otherwise.  Everybody who lives in our family shares the work, sometimes voluntarily, sometimes when asked, because we all live in this home.  So far the boys are very helpful and appreciate the natural benefits of housework: belongings that are easy to find, few broken toys, a clear space to play, a favorite shirt that is clean when you want it, etc.  I don&#039;t want to disrupt this by introducing a reward system!  My feeling about an allowance is that it is a logical way to share the family wealth.  All of us have responsibilities, and all of us share in the family wealth (which is officially earned by my husband, but all of us &quot;work&quot; one one way or another).   Friends have challenged me, saying &quot;what if they don&#039;t work? The consequence for not working is not getting paid!&quot;  Is that true?  Don&#039;t most of us slack off sometimes without significant consequences?  I didn&#039;t do laundry yesterday, and consequently, I had to wear dirty jeans today.  Nobody cut off my access to my bank account.  Similarly, I won&#039;t cut off an allowance because toys weren&#039;t picked up when I wanted them to be.

I like the idea of spending money/savings/charity but thus far I have been uncomfortable with *requiring* a specific distribution.  We do talk about saving and the tradeoff between spending now and saving for later, and we all have opportunities to share our wealth (in the form of our time, talent, or treasure) with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My oldest son is almost 8 and we are still settling into our own allowance system.  Thus far he doesn&#8217;t really need a weekly stipend&#8230;and to be honest, I forget to hand over a weekly allowance.  I think in the new year we will arrange a weekly amount for him and my 5 y/o son.  I&#8217;m divided over whether or not to include the 3 y/o son.  He isn&#8217;t really old enough to need money, but his awareness of money and having the ability to buy things is greater than my oldest son&#8217;s was at that age, because of his position as youngest child with two older brothers.</p>
<p>We do not link chores to any reward system, financial or otherwise.  Everybody who lives in our family shares the work, sometimes voluntarily, sometimes when asked, because we all live in this home.  So far the boys are very helpful and appreciate the natural benefits of housework: belongings that are easy to find, few broken toys, a clear space to play, a favorite shirt that is clean when you want it, etc.  I don&#8217;t want to disrupt this by introducing a reward system!  My feeling about an allowance is that it is a logical way to share the family wealth.  All of us have responsibilities, and all of us share in the family wealth (which is officially earned by my husband, but all of us &#8220;work&#8221; one one way or another).   Friends have challenged me, saying &#8220;what if they don&#8217;t work? The consequence for not working is not getting paid!&#8221;  Is that true?  Don&#8217;t most of us slack off sometimes without significant consequences?  I didn&#8217;t do laundry yesterday, and consequently, I had to wear dirty jeans today.  Nobody cut off my access to my bank account.  Similarly, I won&#8217;t cut off an allowance because toys weren&#8217;t picked up when I wanted them to be.</p>
<p>I like the idea of spending money/savings/charity but thus far I have been uncomfortable with *requiring* a specific distribution.  We do talk about saving and the tradeoff between spending now and saving for later, and we all have opportunities to share our wealth (in the form of our time, talent, or treasure) with others.</p>
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		<title>By: Bettina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bettina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, and it will make me reconsider our system.  We give our kids an allowance of $3 per week (they are 7 and 9), but whatever they spend, they have to put the same amount into savings.   So if they buy a toy for $10 (after saving up for a while), they have to put $10 into savings.  There are certain chores they are expected to do, but if they really want something we discuss projects with them that they could do to earn extra cash.   I like the idea of setting something aside for giving, so will add that to the mix!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, and it will make me reconsider our system.  We give our kids an allowance of $3 per week (they are 7 and 9), but whatever they spend, they have to put the same amount into savings.   So if they buy a toy for $10 (after saving up for a while), they have to put $10 into savings.  There are certain chores they are expected to do, but if they really want something we discuss projects with them that they could do to earn extra cash.   I like the idea of setting something aside for giving, so will add that to the mix!</p>
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		<title>By: Cherie-Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherie-Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have given my kids allowances for sometime now and its worked well. They&#039;re chores associated with their allowance are to respect to their personal space in the house. Household chores are something they nee to help with as they live in the house and are expected to help- I&#039;m not paying for those. Our rule is 1/2 the allowance goes into the bank and the other half is there&#039;s to do what they want with. When the save to buy something their sense of accomplishment is huge, they take batter care of it &amp; normally it would have been something that I would have bought anyway. As a side note I also pay for school grades &amp; there&#039;s a curve involved so both kids scales are designed to their abilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have given my kids allowances for sometime now and its worked well. They&#8217;re chores associated with their allowance are to respect to their personal space in the house. Household chores are something they nee to help with as they live in the house and are expected to help- I&#8217;m not paying for those. Our rule is 1/2 the allowance goes into the bank and the other half is there&#8217;s to do what they want with. When the save to buy something their sense of accomplishment is huge, they take batter care of it &amp; normally it would have been something that I would have bought anyway. As a side note I also pay for school grades &amp; there&#8217;s a curve involved so both kids scales are designed to their abilities.</p>
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		<title>By: RookieMom Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/23/money-money-money-money/#comment-71903</link>
		<dc:creator>RookieMom Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great food for thought, thanks! My oldest son recently turned 5 and has become money-obsessed. In an informal poll of our readers, 5 years old seemed to be the magic age for allowance but the amount varies wildly (as one might expect). Without doing any research, I was thinking $.75 and a quarter would go into each of SPEND, SAVE, GIVE categories and my husband suggested $1.50 with the same breakdown. The percentages you propose do seem a little more realistic.

Hmmmm. Back to the think tank to figure out our own answer now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great food for thought, thanks! My oldest son recently turned 5 and has become money-obsessed. In an informal poll of our readers, 5 years old seemed to be the magic age for allowance but the amount varies wildly (as one might expect). Without doing any research, I was thinking $.75 and a quarter would go into each of SPEND, SAVE, GIVE categories and my husband suggested $1.50 with the same breakdown. The percentages you propose do seem a little more realistic.</p>
<p>Hmmmm. Back to the think tank to figure out our own answer now.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, as usual :) My oldest is only 3 but she definitely has ideas around money already. Items she wants are endless; if she wants more of something, we can just go to the store and buy it. I think part of this is due to her grandparents spoiling her a little bit. That&#039;s what grandparents are for I suppose but considering my MIL has served as a primary caregiver while my husband and I went to work it hasn&#039;t sent the right messages perhaps about money.

I think I will consider the allowance thing once she is around 5years old. It might start sooner for her sister since as you mentioned, she will see her sister getting money and will expect the same treatment. I remember getting an allowance for completing my set chores but I&#039;m not sure exactly how we will work it out. This will be a discussion between my husband and I in the future.

Personally, I think getting an allowance and being able to spend it how I wished helped me as an adult. I hate being in debt to anyone, I never wanted to borrow money from my parents as I was going to school. I hardly use my credit cards and when I do, I pay off the balance right away. So whatever my parents did, I guess it worked :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, as usual <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  My oldest is only 3 but she definitely has ideas around money already. Items she wants are endless; if she wants more of something, we can just go to the store and buy it. I think part of this is due to her grandparents spoiling her a little bit. That&#8217;s what grandparents are for I suppose but considering my MIL has served as a primary caregiver while my husband and I went to work it hasn&#8217;t sent the right messages perhaps about money.</p>
<p>I think I will consider the allowance thing once she is around 5years old. It might start sooner for her sister since as you mentioned, she will see her sister getting money and will expect the same treatment. I remember getting an allowance for completing my set chores but I&#8217;m not sure exactly how we will work it out. This will be a discussion between my husband and I in the future.</p>
<p>Personally, I think getting an allowance and being able to spend it how I wished helped me as an adult. I hate being in debt to anyone, I never wanted to borrow money from my parents as I was going to school. I hardly use my credit cards and when I do, I pay off the balance right away. So whatever my parents did, I guess it worked <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Explaining the Recession and Teaching Financial Literacy to Kids &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/23/money-money-money-money/#comment-6502</link>
		<dc:creator>Explaining the Recession and Teaching Financial Literacy to Kids &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 03:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by encouraging kids to save for the things that they want. I wrote about allowances in my post Money, Money, Money and I also love Amber Strocel&#8217;s post on Starting an Allowance and Raising 4 Boys Allowance [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by encouraging kids to save for the things that they want. I wrote about allowances in my post Money, Money, Money and I also love Amber Strocel&#8217;s post on Starting an Allowance and Raising 4 Boys Allowance [...]</p>
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