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		<title>By: Glowing Goddess</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/12/30/breaking-it-down-for-facebook/#comment-46896</link>
		<dc:creator>Glowing Goddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I am adding this on my Friday Favourites Roundup!  brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I am adding this on my Friday Favourites Roundup!  brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/12/30/breaking-it-down-for-facebook/#comment-46083</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BIG Kahuna

Yes, Facebook can make their own rules, and their rules state that &quot;obscene&quot; images are not permitted. The problem we have is that breastfeeding is being labeled as &quot;obscene&quot;.  It&#039;s not obscene to feed your child.  It&#039;s NOT obscene to feed your child.  I&#039;ve traveled a bit and it&#039;s not like this in other countries -they get it.  That mother is not being sexual she&#039;s being a mother.  Breastfeeding is already not always easy but it is the best, and as a society we should be supporting mothers in their efforts to give them what was created for them, not call it obscene and shove them into bathroom stalls and password-protected photo areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BIG Kahuna</p>
<p>Yes, Facebook can make their own rules, and their rules state that &#8220;obscene&#8221; images are not permitted. The problem we have is that breastfeeding is being labeled as &#8220;obscene&#8221;.  It&#8217;s not obscene to feed your child.  It&#8217;s NOT obscene to feed your child.  I&#8217;ve traveled a bit and it&#8217;s not like this in other countries -they get it.  That mother is not being sexual she&#8217;s being a mother.  Breastfeeding is already not always easy but it is the best, and as a society we should be supporting mothers in their efforts to give them what was created for them, not call it obscene and shove them into bathroom stalls and password-protected photo areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Hey Facebook! Breastfeeding is NOT Obscene! &#171; Be Well</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/12/30/breaking-it-down-for-facebook/#comment-45840</link>
		<dc:creator>Hey Facebook! Breastfeeding is NOT Obscene! &#171; Be Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Birthing Magazine on Facebook and today they posted a link to PhD in Parenting and a blog titled Breaking it Down for Facebook. It is an excellent post on the subject and I just had to share it here on my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Birthing Magazine on Facebook and today they posted a link to PhD in Parenting and a blog titled Breaking it Down for Facebook. It is an excellent post on the subject and I just had to share it here on my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love love love it! Agreed 1,000 times over. I think I&#039;ll even link to you from my blog. &lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love love love it! Agreed 1,000 times over. I think I&#8217;ll even link to you from my blog. &lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/12/30/breaking-it-down-for-facebook/#comment-45816</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay:

I have reported offensive things on facebook before and they are not automatically deleted. They are first reviewed by someone from facebook. So you are right that facebook does not monitor all pictures put up on the site and that it is probably often someone&#039;s own friend reporting their images. However, when facebook reviews those reports it should be clear to them that those pictures are not obscene and should not be removed from the site. They are the ones that take the action to remove pictures and/or freeze people&#039;s accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay:</p>
<p>I have reported offensive things on facebook before and they are not automatically deleted. They are first reviewed by someone from facebook. So you are right that facebook does not monitor all pictures put up on the site and that it is probably often someone&#8217;s own friend reporting their images. However, when facebook reviews those reports it should be clear to them that those pictures are not obscene and should not be removed from the site. They are the ones that take the action to remove pictures and/or freeze people&#8217;s accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be wrong but I don&#039;t think it is FB monitoring these pics...they just wouldn&#039;t have the time to do it all manually. As far as I am aware photos which are reported are automatically deleted and the same notice is given to each person. If you are having BF pics deleted I&#039;d be careful of who you are friends with on there! Before you lynch me I have my own BF pics up on FB and BFed my daughter until she self-weaned at just over 2 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong but I don&#8217;t think it is FB monitoring these pics&#8230;they just wouldn&#8217;t have the time to do it all manually. As far as I am aware photos which are reported are automatically deleted and the same notice is given to each person. If you are having BF pics deleted I&#8217;d be careful of who you are friends with on there! Before you lynch me I have my own BF pics up on FB and BFed my daughter until she self-weaned at just over 2 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ashley- See, here&#039;s the thing, I am a breastfeeding mother.  Me breastfeeding is not &quot;private&quot; and &quot;intimate&quot;... it&#039;s life!  It&#039;s what we do!  A kid gets hungry, I feed it.  I don&#039;t want to have to hide in  a stinky bathroom, or put my kid under a blanket when it&#039;s 120 degrees out (literally, I live in Phoenix, AZ, and getting that hot is pretty normal).  I am always careful and discrete.  You can&#039;t see my nipple, my baby is attatched to it.  I have breastfeeding photos on facebook (they haven&#039;t taken them down yet, but you can&#039;t see any skin) and think they should be allowed to stay there.  I want my children to feel comfortable around breastfeeding moms, and I want my daughter to feel safe breastfeeding when she does the same for her kids.  I want my nieces to see it as normal, so that they are more likely to do it.  If we  keep saying breastfeeding is &quot;private&quot;, how will people see that it&#039;s normal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ashley- See, here&#8217;s the thing, I am a breastfeeding mother.  Me breastfeeding is not &#8220;private&#8221; and &#8220;intimate&#8221;&#8230; it&#8217;s life!  It&#8217;s what we do!  A kid gets hungry, I feed it.  I don&#8217;t want to have to hide in  a stinky bathroom, or put my kid under a blanket when it&#8217;s 120 degrees out (literally, I live in Phoenix, AZ, and getting that hot is pretty normal).  I am always careful and discrete.  You can&#8217;t see my nipple, my baby is attatched to it.  I have breastfeeding photos on facebook (they haven&#8217;t taken them down yet, but you can&#8217;t see any skin) and think they should be allowed to stay there.  I want my children to feel comfortable around breastfeeding moms, and I want my daughter to feel safe breastfeeding when she does the same for her kids.  I want my nieces to see it as normal, so that they are more likely to do it.  If we  keep saying breastfeeding is &#8220;private&#8221;, how will people see that it&#8217;s normal?</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point that hasn&#039;t been brought up about why people might post pics where they&#039;re breastfeeding... You don&#039;t CHOOSE when baby gets hungry!  There may be many moments in life that you want to commemorate and share, where you HAPPEN to have a baby latched on.  You&#039;re not even trying to post a picture of you nursing, it&#039;s just that nursing is something you *do* so much of your life when you have a baby, so pictures happen.

As for &quot;Well, it&#039;s their rules,&quot; the only &quot;rule&quot; I agreed to that they&#039;re citing for this is: &quot;You will not post content that is hateful, threatening, pornographic, or that contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.&quot;  I live in California (where Facebook is also based), and our laws here specifically EXEMPT breastfeeding from being restricted as &quot;nudity&quot; or &quot;obscenity.&quot;  I did not agree to any modification of that rule when I signed up.  So instead, Facebook is imposing rules on me without disclosing them in advance (and possibly in violation of state law).  If they want to categorize breastfeeding as &quot;nudity&quot;, they have to make that explicit; otherwise, a reasonable person would assume that it is not included.

If a site has clearly-stated rules that I object to, I don&#039;t sign up.  If they have unofficial policies that are NOT stated, and discriminate against certain users, I&#039;ll complain like hell.  That is NOT how you do business.  I was already hooked into Facebook before I knew they did this; they didn&#039;t tell me up-front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point that hasn&#8217;t been brought up about why people might post pics where they&#8217;re breastfeeding&#8230; You don&#8217;t CHOOSE when baby gets hungry!  There may be many moments in life that you want to commemorate and share, where you HAPPEN to have a baby latched on.  You&#8217;re not even trying to post a picture of you nursing, it&#8217;s just that nursing is something you *do* so much of your life when you have a baby, so pictures happen.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;Well, it&#8217;s their rules,&#8221; the only &#8220;rule&#8221; I agreed to that they&#8217;re citing for this is: &#8220;You will not post content that is hateful, threatening, pornographic, or that contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.&#8221;  I live in California (where Facebook is also based), and our laws here specifically EXEMPT breastfeeding from being restricted as &#8220;nudity&#8221; or &#8220;obscenity.&#8221;  I did not agree to any modification of that rule when I signed up.  So instead, Facebook is imposing rules on me without disclosing them in advance (and possibly in violation of state law).  If they want to categorize breastfeeding as &#8220;nudity&#8221;, they have to make that explicit; otherwise, a reasonable person would assume that it is not included.</p>
<p>If a site has clearly-stated rules that I object to, I don&#8217;t sign up.  If they have unofficial policies that are NOT stated, and discriminate against certain users, I&#8217;ll complain like hell.  That is NOT how you do business.  I was already hooked into Facebook before I knew they did this; they didn&#8217;t tell me up-front.</p>
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		<title>By: 8 март е. &#171; Откъслеци</title>
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		<dc:creator>8 март е. &#171; Откъслеци</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] да повдигне отново темата за това дали Facebook трябва да изтрива снимките на кърмещи майки като [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] да повдигне отново темата за това дали Facebook трябва да изтрива снимките на кърмещи майки като [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking this would compare to pictures of baby booties...which do not get taken down because they are &quot;cute&quot;, yet they are nudity (and usually more of it). 

Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking this would compare to pictures of baby booties&#8230;which do not get taken down because they are &#8220;cute&#8221;, yet they are nudity (and usually more of it). </p>
<p>Great post.</p>
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