Comments on: Another academic weighs in on CIO http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/ ...exploring the art and science of parenting Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:24:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: JenJen http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-52406 JenJen Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:12:41 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-52406 Thanks for the post, it helps sum up a lot of my own feelings on the whole cry it out approach. One thing I wanted to add was that when I read (only bits of it) the book "Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child" (which advocates CIO -- labeling it "extinction," which I think is an interesting choice of words), I was struck by how judgmental it was and how it seemed to assign a great deal of blame for child behavior on mothers (though the term "parenting" was used, it was clearly aimed at mothers). Very 19th century as far as I could tell. Thanks for the post, it helps sum up a lot of my own feelings on the whole cry it out approach. One thing I wanted to add was that when I read (only bits of it) the book “Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child” (which advocates CIO — labeling it “extinction,” which I think is an interesting choice of words), I was struck by how judgmental it was and how it seemed to assign a great deal of blame for child behavior on mothers (though the term “parenting” was used, it was clearly aimed at mothers). Very 19th century as far as I could tell.

]]> By: phdinparenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-17076 phdinparenting Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:16:01 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-17076 @PhD mama: Thank you for your comment. With regards to the title of my blog, I understand what you are saying and I'm sorry if you feel that it discredits people who are working towards or are holders of PhDs. Yes, I have chosen it as a catchy title, but it is more than that too. I chose it for a number of reasons: 1) I chose parenting rather than doing a PhD at this point in my life. I have completed my Masters and now I'm moving on to the next stage...but in a different discipline. 2) I think parenting is as hard as (if not harder) than doing a PhD. As someone with a Master's degree who has published journal articles and seriously considered applying to PhD programs and as the wife of a PhD candidate, I have a good idea of what is involved in a PhD program. 3) I want to examine issues related to parenting that have not yet been examined. Part of that is reading books, studies, and research by others to get background. Part of it is introspection, hypothesizing, testing ideas, and so on. I want to make people question the status quo. Question what they believe. Present theories, evidence, and so on for different ways of doing things or thinking about things. I am insulted that you think the blog is nothing more than synthesizing parenting books. I think I've put a lot more into it than that. But I'm not sure how many posts you actually read. With regards to the title of this post, I'm not sure what you are objecting to. Are you questioning Macall Gordon's academic credentials? No, she doesn't have a PhD (as far as I know), but she certainly is doing academic work in this field. @PhD mama:

Thank you for your comment.

With regards to the title of my blog, I understand what you are saying and I’m sorry if you feel that it discredits people who are working towards or are holders of PhDs. Yes, I have chosen it as a catchy title, but it is more than that too. I chose it for a number of reasons:
1) I chose parenting rather than doing a PhD at this point in my life. I have completed my Masters and now I’m moving on to the next stage…but in a different discipline.
2) I think parenting is as hard as (if not harder) than doing a PhD. As someone with a Master’s degree who has published journal articles and seriously considered applying to PhD programs and as the wife of a PhD candidate, I have a good idea of what is involved in a PhD program.
3) I want to examine issues related to parenting that have not yet been examined. Part of that is reading books, studies, and research by others to get background. Part of it is introspection, hypothesizing, testing ideas, and so on. I want to make people question the status quo. Question what they believe. Present theories, evidence, and so on for different ways of doing things or thinking about things.

I am insulted that you think the blog is nothing more than synthesizing parenting books. I think I’ve put a lot more into it than that. But I’m not sure how many posts you actually read.

With regards to the title of this post, I’m not sure what you are objecting to. Are you questioning Macall Gordon’s academic credentials? No, she doesn’t have a PhD (as far as I know), but she certainly is doing academic work in this field.

]]> By: PhD mama http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-17062 PhD mama Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:41:52 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-17062 Another mama friend referred me to your blog today. I like the content of your blog, and I appreciate its message. However, I feel your blog title, and the title of posts such as this one, are incredibly misleading. While parenting is an very tough job that requires much introspection and learning, you are not technically working toward/ the holder of a PhD in any discipline. You read parenting books and synthesize them in a way that is understandable and meaningful to your readers. I think this is a valuable skill and service. However, the job of a PhD candidate is to critically analyze primary literature in their chosen field and to develop empirical research based on testable questions. That is not the scope of your blog. While I know the title of your blog is likely simply meant to be catchy, it basically discredits those of us who are working toward/ the holders of PhDs in the eyes of the public (or anyone who is not aware of the distinction). Another mama friend referred me to your blog today. I like the content of your blog, and I appreciate its message. However, I feel your blog title, and the title of posts such as this one, are incredibly misleading. While parenting is an very tough job that requires much introspection and learning, you are not technically working toward/ the holder of a PhD in any discipline. You read parenting books and synthesize them in a way that is understandable and meaningful to your readers. I think this is a valuable skill and service. However, the job of a PhD candidate is to critically analyze primary literature in their chosen field and to develop empirical research based on testable questions. That is not the scope of your blog. While I know the title of your blog is likely simply meant to be catchy, it basically discredits those of us who are working toward/ the holders of PhDs in the eyes of the public (or anyone who is not aware of the distinction).

]]> By: Cry it out (CIO): 10 reasons why it is not for us | PhD in Parenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-9418 Cry it out (CIO): 10 reasons why it is not for us | PhD in Parenting Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:46:43 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-9418 [...] or not. Also, as I discussed in my follow-up post Cry it Out (CIO): Is it harmful or helpful? and Another Academic Weighs in on CIO there is no evidence that cry it out is safe, despite what its supporters will tell [...] [...] or not. Also, as I discussed in my follow-up post Cry it Out (CIO): Is it harmful or helpful? and Another Academic Weighs in on CIO there is no evidence that cry it out is safe, despite what its supporters will tell [...]

]]> By: Sarah Jo http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-7989 Sarah Jo Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:47:53 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-7989 Thx for this article. I am getting pressure (from my parents, nonetheless) to break my 22 MO of his cuddle request every night and to let him CIO. Hearing my son scream "Mommy" for 20 minutes feels so wrong. Thx for this article. I am getting pressure (from my parents, nonetheless) to break my 22 MO of his cuddle request every night and to let him CIO. Hearing my son scream “Mommy” for 20 minutes feels so wrong.

]]> By: Morgan http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-1308 Morgan Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:47:26 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-1308 Thank you for this article. I too am an attachment parenting advocate (and mother of a toddler who most definitely does not 'sleep through' and never has - we've fended off pressure to CIO for a long time) and often find it difficult not to get too enraged about CIO. I'm shocked to see it in government-run parenting courses and public health organisation-written manuals on parenting in my country. Information like this gives me something solid to quote when arguing against it. I'll look forward to your future blogs! I will mention it on my blog as well. Thank you for this article. I too am an attachment parenting advocate (and mother of a toddler who most definitely does not ‘sleep through’ and never has – we’ve fended off pressure to CIO for a long time) and often find it difficult not to get too enraged about CIO. I’m shocked to see it in government-run parenting courses and public health organisation-written manuals on parenting in my country. Information like this gives me something solid to quote when arguing against it. I’ll look forward to your future blogs! I will mention it on my blog as well.

]]> By: Family Anatomy http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-1221 Family Anatomy Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:08:53 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-1221 My kids were terrible sleepers for years. We briefly tried CIO, but it was too hard for all three of us - my younger son just became increasingly upset. When it was time to stop breastfeeding, I took over the night-time routines, since it was hard for their mom to put the kids to bed when they weren't being fed first. After trying CIO and comforting (which would happen hourly), I put a mattress on the floor of their room, and rubbed their back without picking them up if they became upset. This lasted about 6 months for both of our boys, but they can finally sleep through the night! My kids were terrible sleepers for years. We briefly tried CIO, but it was too hard for all three of us – my younger son just became increasingly upset.

When it was time to stop breastfeeding, I took over the night-time routines, since it was hard for their mom to put the kids to bed when they weren’t being fed first. After trying CIO and comforting (which would happen hourly), I put a mattress on the floor of their room, and rubbed their back without picking them up if they became upset.

This lasted about 6 months for both of our boys, but they can finally sleep through the night!

]]> By: Megan http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-1128 Megan Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:19:09 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-1128 Wow, what a fantastic article on the emperical evidence (or lack thereof). It breaks my heart that little babies are subjected to CIO. When I am at my most feisty I am convinced it is child abuse. Wow, what a fantastic article on the emperical evidence (or lack thereof). It breaks my heart that little babies are subjected to CIO. When I am at my most feisty I am convinced it is child abuse.

]]> By: Amanda Little http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-1012 Amanda Little Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:36:28 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-1012 I find this really interesting, I want to do some more research on it and see where it leads me. I am having my baby soon and I'm wondering how effective this method would be. I dont see it doing much good, then the baby isnt getting proper nurturing, right? Amanda Little www.Parents-To-Be.net I find this really interesting, I want to do some more research on it and see where it leads me. I am having my baby soon and I’m wondering how effective this method would be. I dont see it doing much good, then the baby isnt getting proper nurturing, right?

Amanda Little
http://www.Parents-To-Be.net

]]> By: More experts weigh in on “Cry It Out” « Geriatric Mama’s Rants http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/01/15/another-academic-weighs-in-on-cio/#comment-994 More experts weigh in on “Cry It Out” « Geriatric Mama’s Rants Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:41:03 +0000 http://phdinparenting.com/?p=936#comment-994 [...] off again to my friend over at phdinparenting blog for passing this information along.  It is our duty - responsibility - to ensure parents get [...] [...] off again to my friend over at phdinparenting blog for passing this information along.  It is our duty – responsibility – to ensure parents get [...]

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