Comments on: The evils of schedules http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/ ...exploring the art and science of parenting Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:24:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Full day kindergarten: Yes? No? Maybe? — PhD in Parenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-189518 Full day kindergarten: Yes? No? Maybe? — PhD in Parenting Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:10:50 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-189518 [...] Having these activities available at the school would help appease those parents that worry their kids are “falling behind” compared to Asian nations that have kids learning more at earlier ages and would also cut down on the need to schedule these types of activities on evenings and weekends, which cuts into family time and creates overscheduled kids. [...] [...] Having these activities available at the school would help appease those parents that worry their kids are “falling behind” compared to Asian nations that have kids learning more at earlier ages and would also cut down on the need to schedule these types of activities on evenings and weekends, which cuts into family time and creates overscheduled kids. [...]

]]> By: The Happiest Mom (New Book Release by Meagan Francis) | PhD in Parenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-116182 The Happiest Mom (New Book Release by Meagan Francis) | PhD in Parenting Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:31:01 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-116182 [...] Harvey Karp’s Happiest Baby on the Block. An anti-thesis to many of the baby trainers and baby schedulers, this book offered suggestions for creating a “fourth-trimester” like environment to [...] [...] Harvey Karp’s Happiest Baby on the Block. An anti-thesis to many of the baby trainers and baby schedulers, this book offered suggestions for creating a “fourth-trimester” like environment to [...]

]]> By: phdinparenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-78959 phdinparenting Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:37:50 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-78959 BabyMakingMama: I think it is a point worth considering when looking at different daycares. Certainly a lot of preschools and schools have schedules, but I think that daycares for infants and young toddlers should have enough flexibility built in to allow the children to eat and sleep when they need to. They will probably have a routine (e.g. everyone goes outside at 10:00am), but most should not be imposing a strict feeding/napping schedule with babies. It is certainly something to ask about when you are considering different care environments. BabyMakingMama:

I think it is a point worth considering when looking at different daycares. Certainly a lot of preschools and schools have schedules, but I think that daycares for infants and young toddlers should have enough flexibility built in to allow the children to eat and sleep when they need to. They will probably have a routine (e.g. everyone goes outside at 10:00am), but most should not be imposing a strict feeding/napping schedule with babies. It is certainly something to ask about when you are considering different care environments.

]]> By: BabyMakingMama http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-78957 BabyMakingMama Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:32:16 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-78957 Thanks for linking to this post. It was great! I haven't read Baby Wise and don't plan to. I, as you know don't have my baby on a schedule now. I notice we tend to follow routines but not strict ones. I think one of my concerns with scheduling is when I return to work. My husband will be home with her for a few months, and hopefully he'll be able to wear her (gotta teach him) but I know if she were in daycare she'd be on a schedule. Hopefully we can avoid that as long as possible but at some point, a schedule may have to come into play. While I'm at home, I'll keep feeding on demand. As for your comment. You're right. 140 characters just isn't enough for deep conversations. But links to personal opinions and posts like these are helpful, and do fit :) Thanks for linking to this post. It was great! I haven’t read Baby Wise and don’t plan to. I, as you know don’t have my baby on a schedule now. I notice we tend to follow routines but not strict ones. I think one of my concerns with scheduling is when I return to work. My husband will be home with her for a few months, and hopefully he’ll be able to wear her (gotta teach him) but I know if she were in daycare she’d be on a schedule. Hopefully we can avoid that as long as possible but at some point, a schedule may have to come into play.

While I’m at home, I’ll keep feeding on demand.

As for your comment. You’re right. 140 characters just isn’t enough for deep conversations. But links to personal opinions and posts like these are helpful, and do fit :)

]]> By: Things to Write Home About 2/22/09 | Feels Like Home http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-2023 Things to Write Home About 2/22/09 | Feels Like Home Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:45:17 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-2023 [...] Annie at PhD in Parenting talked about scheduling infants [...] [...] Annie at PhD in Parenting talked about scheduling infants [...]

]]> By: phdinparenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-1960 phdinparenting Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:59:01 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-1960 @Sarah V: Sure, fair enough. I allow myself a bit of creative license here and there. I'm sure there are people that use spreadsheets to track their Baby Whisperer routine and plenty of others that don't. There are also people who do let their child lead that use spreadsheets for whatever reason (e.g. to start to understand their sleep patterns, to keep track of how much milk they pumped if exclusively pumping, etc.). Mommy brain can be daunting and spreadsheets can be helpful! I was just trying to write a compelling intro. Nothing less, nothing more. @Sarah V: Sure, fair enough. I allow myself a bit of creative license here and there. I’m sure there are people that use spreadsheets to track their Baby Whisperer routine and plenty of others that don’t. There are also people who do let their child lead that use spreadsheets for whatever reason (e.g. to start to understand their sleep patterns, to keep track of how much milk they pumped if exclusively pumping, etc.). Mommy brain can be daunting and spreadsheets can be helpful! I was just trying to write a compelling intro. Nothing less, nothing more.

]]> By: Megan http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-1953 Megan Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:07:47 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-1953 Wonderful post. Very much in line with thoughts swirling in my head.... I love the idea of free range kids. I am having a tough time not putting DS into programmes and he is ONE. I keep being told how he needs schedules and scheduled activities.... he couldn't possibly be OK playing in the garden while I work in the garden (eyeroll) He needs a professional leading a group to learn anything (another eyeroll). I'm getting used to be 'fanatic' about not wanting adult ideas of what he needs pushed on him.... and eyebrows will just have to be raised when I don't force him into any expected behavior. Love your style Wonderful post. Very much in line with thoughts swirling in my head…. I love the idea of free range kids. I am having a tough time not putting DS into programmes and he is ONE. I keep being told how he needs schedules and scheduled activities…. he couldn’t possibly be OK playing in the garden while I work in the garden (eyeroll) He needs a professional leading a group to learn anything (another eyeroll). I’m getting used to be ‘fanatic’ about not wanting adult ideas of what he needs pushed on him…. and eyebrows will just have to be raised when I don’t force him into any expected behavior.

Love your style

]]> By: Sarah V. http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-1935 Sarah V. Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:22:05 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-1935 @Annie and @Babyready: I think we're more or less on the same page as far as recognition of the potential problems with Tracy Hogg's EASY routine goes. The point I wanted to make is that it isn't the kind of strict, parent-led, break-out-the-spreadsheet schedule that you were implying by mentioning it in that paragraph. I clarify this partly because I believe in representing people's views fairly even when I happen to disagree with those views (when I say that I disagree with Hogg's view on this issue, I mean not that I feel that there's anything wrong with using an EASY routine if that's what an individual mother happens to feel would suit, but that I disagree with Hogg's view that it's an objectively better way than any other to do things and that it's what we should all be striving for). However, I also say it because I think it's worth recognising that trying to implement EASY in the early months can potentially have drawbacks and problems (especially for would-be breastfeeders) *despite* *not* being a strict schedule. I don't see it as something evil; but I do see it as something with potential disadvantages, and that wouldn't really come across to someone who had read both 'Secrets of the Baby Whisperer' and your post, because what you said doesn't really represent what Hogg says and would thus be easy to dismiss. @Annie and @Babyready: I think we’re more or less on the same page as far as recognition of the potential problems with Tracy Hogg’s EASY routine goes. The point I wanted to make is that it isn’t the kind of strict, parent-led, break-out-the-spreadsheet schedule that you were implying by mentioning it in that paragraph.

I clarify this partly because I believe in representing people’s views fairly even when I happen to disagree with those views (when I say that I disagree with Hogg’s view on this issue, I mean not that I feel that there’s anything wrong with using an EASY routine if that’s what an individual mother happens to feel would suit, but that I disagree with Hogg’s view that it’s an objectively better way than any other to do things and that it’s what we should all be striving for). However, I also say it because I think it’s worth recognising that trying to implement EASY in the early months can potentially have drawbacks and problems (especially for would-be breastfeeders) *despite* *not* being a strict schedule. I don’t see it as something evil; but I do see it as something with potential disadvantages, and that wouldn’t really come across to someone who had read both ‘Secrets of the Baby Whisperer’ and your post, because what you said doesn’t really represent what Hogg says and would thus be easy to dismiss.

]]> By: Megan http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-1906 Megan Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:16:33 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-1906 A great post. Us personally we have a routine....so Ara knows what happens next. If she's tired we start doing things that lead towards bed...it might mean between 12 or 1 or 6:30 and 7:30 as I don't go to bed bang on the clock every time why should my child? In my childhood my parents didn't have a routine or a schedule and I hate not knowing what is happening it makes me very stressed…product of my up bringing? My personality? Before learning about attachment parenting I tried the whole minute by minute thing as I thought it would make my life easy and my child would just love to know what is what, but truly from a person who loves to check her watch every 15mins or less it made my life hell as well as unsocial....as some friends yesterday said...we made a choice to become parents and its a life changing event which means YOUR LIFE CHANGES... if you don't get to play tennis when you want to and your unhappy about that well maybe you should look at the reasons why you became a parent. I think there is a post in there some where. But great post…we live in a day an age where we need people to be creative, flexible and understanding and that is not going to come from ridged schedules. A great post.
Us personally we have a routine….so Ara knows what happens next. If she’s tired we start doing things that lead towards bed…it might mean between 12 or 1 or 6:30 and 7:30 as I don’t go to bed bang on the clock every time why should my child?
In my childhood my parents didn’t have a routine or a schedule and I hate not knowing what is happening it makes me very stressed…product of my up bringing? My personality?
Before learning about attachment parenting I tried the whole minute by minute thing as I thought it would make my life easy and my child would just love to know what is what, but truly from a person who loves to check her watch every 15mins or less it made my life hell as well as unsocial….as some friends yesterday said…we made a choice to become parents and its a life changing event which means YOUR LIFE CHANGES… if you don’t get to play tennis when you want to and your unhappy about that well maybe you should look at the reasons why you became a parent.
I think there is a post in there some where.
But great post…we live in a day an age where we need people to be creative, flexible and understanding and that is not going to come from ridged schedules.

]]> By: Sara http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/02/15/the-evils-of-schedules/#comment-1883 Sara Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:00:59 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=1154#comment-1883 Well, I tried breastfeeding, I had a lactation consultant, and my daughter just wouldn't do it. She would scream, milk would be everywhere, we'd both be crying, not a good situation for anyone. The LC said that I was doing everything right, she just didnt want to, so we switched to bottles and formula. Sucky, but maybe the next kid will want to do it. :-) Well, I tried breastfeeding, I had a lactation consultant, and my daughter just wouldn’t do it. She would scream, milk would be everywhere, we’d both be crying, not a good situation for anyone. The LC said that I was doing everything right, she just didnt want to, so we switched to bottles and formula. Sucky, but maybe the next kid will want to do it. :-)

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