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		<title>By: Mykel</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/03/05/shaking-the-bush-out-of-america/#comment-122257</link>
		<dc:creator>Mykel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
Long time reader and first time commentor!

I live in the uk but my parents live in the USA and I travel at least once a year but usually twice to see them - and have been for the past ten years. 

I have to say that I am really glad to see this article and others being written, not a single trip goes by where I do not fear the customs officers. The first time I travelled accross the border after my parents moved, my passport still contained a green visa form that the airlines had not removed from my last trip. I had no idea what the form meant and was taken into an interrogation room and interrogated for an hour. 

My last few trips have been surprisingly pleasant and even a little weird with one customs official, who is from the same town as I was visiting, taking ten minutes to rant about a girl who cheated on him! 

Oh and as a side note I once flew from Amsterdam to Washington and was given one heck of a grilling on my way out. When I asked why it was so intense, the Dutch official replied &quot;we are preparing you for the Americans, one mistake and they will interrogate you.&quot; 

That another country uses it&#039;s resources to protect it&#039;s people from a supposed ally in this way is ridiculous!

Thank you for the great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
Long time reader and first time commentor!</p>
<p>I live in the uk but my parents live in the USA and I travel at least once a year but usually twice to see them &#8211; and have been for the past ten years. </p>
<p>I have to say that I am really glad to see this article and others being written, not a single trip goes by where I do not fear the customs officers. The first time I travelled accross the border after my parents moved, my passport still contained a green visa form that the airlines had not removed from my last trip. I had no idea what the form meant and was taken into an interrogation room and interrogated for an hour. </p>
<p>My last few trips have been surprisingly pleasant and even a little weird with one customs official, who is from the same town as I was visiting, taking ten minutes to rant about a girl who cheated on him! </p>
<p>Oh and as a side note I once flew from Amsterdam to Washington and was given one heck of a grilling on my way out. When I asked why it was so intense, the Dutch official replied &#8220;we are preparing you for the Americans, one mistake and they will interrogate you.&#8221; </p>
<p>That another country uses it&#8217;s resources to protect it&#8217;s people from a supposed ally in this way is ridiculous!</p>
<p>Thank you for the great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Too much power, too little judgment in the hands of TSA &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Too much power, too little judgment in the hands of TSA &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] judgment as they carry out their duties. I wrote about another example previously in my post called Shaking the Bush out of America, but apparently this goes far beyond Bush&#8217;s stupid [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] judgment as they carry out their duties. I wrote about another example previously in my post called Shaking the Bush out of America, but apparently this goes far beyond Bush&#8217;s stupid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlogHer &#8216;09 &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/03/05/shaking-the-bush-out-of-america/#comment-2581</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogHer &#8216;09 &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is official. I&#8217;m going to BlogHer &#8216;09. I heard today tickets were about to sell out, so I bought mine. Can&#8217;t wait! For the record, I expect to fly there and take a cab to the hotel and conference to avoid any overzealous arrests for traffic violations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It is official. I&#8217;m going to BlogHer &#8216;09. I heard today tickets were about to sell out, so I bought mine. Can&#8217;t wait! For the record, I expect to fly there and take a cab to the hotel and conference to avoid any overzealous arrests for traffic violations. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/03/05/shaking-the-bush-out-of-america/#comment-2471</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jane : I agree that there are injustices everywhere. My hope is that they usually get dealt with by the law. The news coverage I&#039;ve heard of the Vancouver taser incident over the past few days has featured RCMP officers being grilled on the stand and put to the task for the stupid mistakes they made that night. The RCMP has recognized that its guidelines around when and how to use tasers are inappropriate and has made changes. 

However, in the case of the Sheriff in Arizona and the State of Georgia, they insist that these &quot;routine&quot; procedures are appropriate and expected of them. Once I have some sense that this is being changed or addressed, perhaps I&#039;ll change my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jane : I agree that there are injustices everywhere. My hope is that they usually get dealt with by the law. The news coverage I&#8217;ve heard of the Vancouver taser incident over the past few days has featured RCMP officers being grilled on the stand and put to the task for the stupid mistakes they made that night. The RCMP has recognized that its guidelines around when and how to use tasers are inappropriate and has made changes. </p>
<p>However, in the case of the Sheriff in Arizona and the State of Georgia, they insist that these &#8220;routine&#8221; procedures are appropriate and expected of them. Once I have some sense that this is being changed or addressed, perhaps I&#8217;ll change my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/03/05/shaking-the-bush-out-of-america/#comment-2469</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those 2 stories you recounted were without a doubt awful and terrible injustices, and while I absolutely respect anyone&#039;s decision to not visit the USA (or any other country) on moral grounds, I feel that refraining from visiting the USA out of fear that you would have something like what happened in those stories happen to you is not unlike saying you won&#039;t go swimming in the ocean because you might get attacked by sharks - in other words, extremely unlikely. 

I&#039;ve crossed the border dozens and dozens of times since 1996, and while the border crossing were not pleasant in late 2001, the surliness of the border guards has been pretty consistent (in my experience) regardless of whether we dealing with  US or Canadian customs. Perhaps it depends on the crossing? Or it&#039;s just the luck of the draw. 

Awful injustices and xenophobia happen in plenty of countries. I recently travelled through the Vancouver airport where a Polish immigrant was tasered and killed. A Moroccan immigrant was  killed this winter in Montreal by a snowplow and her family has received nothing from the city except a bill for 13$ for a copy of the police report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those 2 stories you recounted were without a doubt awful and terrible injustices, and while I absolutely respect anyone&#8217;s decision to not visit the USA (or any other country) on moral grounds, I feel that refraining from visiting the USA out of fear that you would have something like what happened in those stories happen to you is not unlike saying you won&#8217;t go swimming in the ocean because you might get attacked by sharks &#8211; in other words, extremely unlikely. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve crossed the border dozens and dozens of times since 1996, and while the border crossing were not pleasant in late 2001, the surliness of the border guards has been pretty consistent (in my experience) regardless of whether we dealing with  US or Canadian customs. Perhaps it depends on the crossing? Or it&#8217;s just the luck of the draw. </p>
<p>Awful injustices and xenophobia happen in plenty of countries. I recently travelled through the Vancouver airport where a Polish immigrant was tasered and killed. A Moroccan immigrant was  killed this winter in Montreal by a snowplow and her family has received nothing from the city except a bill for 13$ for a copy of the police report.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucie @ Unconventional Origins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucie @ Unconventional Origins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber, I thought that sounded like the same guy! I can&#039;t believe no one has stopped him yet.

Honestly, this is just sad when our neighbors can&#039;t come visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber, I thought that sounded like the same guy! I can&#8217;t believe no one has stopped him yet.</p>
<p>Honestly, this is just sad when our neighbors can&#8217;t come visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucie, it&#039;s the same sheriff.  Joe Arpaio is a total cowboy and does a lot of pretty insane stuff.  You can read more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

As for us, we are Canadians and we have noticed the lengthening border line-ups and increased security.  It&#039;s really unfortunate, I think, that we feel less welcome in the US.  Our family still visits, and we actually signed up for the Nexus program because otherwise crossing the border with 2 small children is just not workable.

I hope that under Obama&#039;s regime things will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucie, it&#8217;s the same sheriff.  Joe Arpaio is a total cowboy and does a lot of pretty insane stuff.  You can read more about him here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio</a></p>
<p>As for us, we are Canadians and we have noticed the lengthening border line-ups and increased security.  It&#8217;s really unfortunate, I think, that we feel less welcome in the US.  Our family still visits, and we actually signed up for the Nexus program because otherwise crossing the border with 2 small children is just not workable.</p>
<p>I hope that under Obama&#8217;s regime things will change.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucie @ Unconventional Origins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucie @ Unconventional Origins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has studied immigration law and policy, it&#039;s going to be a real problem the next four years. The main problems are that reform is needed in a major way, and that local law enforcement officials are going outside the scope of their duties to enforce immigration policy, which is federal. There is actually a sheriff who is rounding up anyone who looks Hispanic and holding them in tents in the desert in AZ, with no hearing or rights. These rogue locals need to be reigned in, and I am honestly not sure how Obama is going to do it. Unfortunately I think immigration issues are being pushed to the backburner because everything else is so screwy, which is unfortunate because immigrants deserve rights but they also are a part of the economy (tourism, work, etc).

I sincerely hopes this changes during his term, but I can&#039;t blame anyone for not coming here until major reform happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has studied immigration law and policy, it&#8217;s going to be a real problem the next four years. The main problems are that reform is needed in a major way, and that local law enforcement officials are going outside the scope of their duties to enforce immigration policy, which is federal. There is actually a sheriff who is rounding up anyone who looks Hispanic and holding them in tents in the desert in AZ, with no hearing or rights. These rogue locals need to be reigned in, and I am honestly not sure how Obama is going to do it. Unfortunately I think immigration issues are being pushed to the backburner because everything else is so screwy, which is unfortunate because immigrants deserve rights but they also are a part of the economy (tourism, work, etc).</p>
<p>I sincerely hopes this changes during his term, but I can&#8217;t blame anyone for not coming here until major reform happens.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rhyah - Please feel free to post the article on the Obama website, but provide a link back here when you do so.

@ Annette - That often worries me as well when I sign my name to things, but someone needs to speak up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rhyah &#8211; Please feel free to post the article on the Obama website, but provide a link back here when you do so.</p>
<p>@ Annette &#8211; That often worries me as well when I sign my name to things, but someone needs to speak up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so difficult for me to gather my thoughts on this post because on one hand I love my country dearly and feel like I should defend her, but on the other hand I am so extremely embarrassed by the actions of the people who represent me as a citizen and are placed in positions to keep people safe. 

It&#039;s such a sad feeling to live in a country that I love and watch things crumble right before my eyes. It worries me for my own safety, my children&#039;s safety and the safety of others. 

While I don&#039;t agree with the way that a lot of things are handled and think that the Bush administration royally fouled things up, I think people are still afraid in some sense because as a previous poster mentioned, it&#039;s going to take a long time to undo the damage that 9/11 did.  Even though it happened almost 8 years ago it&#039;s still very close to home for me, and I&#039;m sure many others.

With all that said, as a US citizen I am truly sorry for anyone who has experienced any kind of maltreatment at the hands of our officials, whether they are a citizen or a visitor from another country it is simply not acceptable. 

You raised a very interesting point in saying that &quot;we obviously don&#039;t want your money.&quot; I have to wonder if anyone has thought about the impact that these strong arm actions have on our economy, as I&#039;m sure you&#039;re not the only one that feels this way. 

With your permission, I would like to post this article on the Obama website to give him and his administration some insight into how other countries are reacting to the way things are being handled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so difficult for me to gather my thoughts on this post because on one hand I love my country dearly and feel like I should defend her, but on the other hand I am so extremely embarrassed by the actions of the people who represent me as a citizen and are placed in positions to keep people safe. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a sad feeling to live in a country that I love and watch things crumble right before my eyes. It worries me for my own safety, my children&#8217;s safety and the safety of others. </p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t agree with the way that a lot of things are handled and think that the Bush administration royally fouled things up, I think people are still afraid in some sense because as a previous poster mentioned, it&#8217;s going to take a long time to undo the damage that 9/11 did.  Even though it happened almost 8 years ago it&#8217;s still very close to home for me, and I&#8217;m sure many others.</p>
<p>With all that said, as a US citizen I am truly sorry for anyone who has experienced any kind of maltreatment at the hands of our officials, whether they are a citizen or a visitor from another country it is simply not acceptable. </p>
<p>You raised a very interesting point in saying that &#8220;we obviously don&#8217;t want your money.&#8221; I have to wonder if anyone has thought about the impact that these strong arm actions have on our economy, as I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re not the only one that feels this way. </p>
<p>With your permission, I would like to post this article on the Obama website to give him and his administration some insight into how other countries are reacting to the way things are being handled.</p>
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