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		<title>By: ritorres</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-84955</link>
		<dc:creator>ritorres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have raised two beautiful children, a boy and a girl, a passive and an active one, and never, not once raised my hand to them.  They both respect me and adore me.  They both are very active in their community and both gainfully employed.  I give them the gift of a non-violence home. I am very proud of the chose I made to break the chain of violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have raised two beautiful children, a boy and a girl, a passive and an active one, and never, not once raised my hand to them.  They both respect me and adore me.  They both are very active in their community and both gainfully employed.  I give them the gift of a non-violence home. I am very proud of the chose I made to break the chain of violence.</p>
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		<title>By: more thoughts on Being Mom. &#171; Love &#124; Peace &#124; Ohana</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-29740</link>
		<dc:creator>more thoughts on Being Mom. &#171; Love &#124; Peace &#124; Ohana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There have been a couple different posts that have prompted this (PhD in Parenting&#8217;s Spank Out Day, Womanist Musings&#8217; post about some asshole who slapped a 2-year-old in the face at Walmart) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There have been a couple different posts that have prompted this (PhD in Parenting&#8217;s Spank Out Day, Womanist Musings&#8217; post about some asshole who slapped a 2-year-old in the face at Walmart) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PDeverit</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-19639</link>
		<dc:creator>PDeverit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:

Child buttock-battering for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit. 

Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.

I think the reason why television shows like &quot;Supernanny&quot; and &quot;Dr. Phil&quot; are so popular is because that is precisely what many (not all) people are trying to do.

There are several reasons why child bottom-slapping isn&#039;t a good idea. Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:

Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak,

The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson,

NO VITAL ORGANS THERE So They Say
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.

Most compelling of all reasons to abandon this worst of all bad habits is the fact that buttock-battering can be unintentional sexual abuse for some children. There is an abundance of educational resources, testimony, documentation, etc available on the subject that can easily be found by doing a little research with the recommended reads-visit www.nospank.net

Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child bottom-slapping isn&#039;t a good idea:

American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
Center For Effective Discipline,
PsycHealth Ltd Behavioral Health Professionals,
Churches&#039; Network For Non-Violence,
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus&#039; Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.

In 26 countries, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:</p>
<p>Child buttock-battering for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit. </p>
<p>Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.</p>
<p>I think the reason why television shows like &#8220;Supernanny&#8221; and &#8220;Dr. Phil&#8221; are so popular is because that is precisely what many (not all) people are trying to do.</p>
<p>There are several reasons why child bottom-slapping isn&#8217;t a good idea. Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:</p>
<p>Plain Talk About Spanking<br />
by Jordan Riak,</p>
<p>The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children<br />
by Tom Johnson,</p>
<p>NO VITAL ORGANS THERE So They Say<br />
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.</p>
<p>Most compelling of all reasons to abandon this worst of all bad habits is the fact that buttock-battering can be unintentional sexual abuse for some children. There is an abundance of educational resources, testimony, documentation, etc available on the subject that can easily be found by doing a little research with the recommended reads-visit <a href="http://www.nospank.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.nospank.net</a></p>
<p>Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child bottom-slapping isn&#8217;t a good idea:</p>
<p>American Academy of Pediatrics,<br />
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,<br />
Center For Effective Discipline,<br />
PsycHealth Ltd Behavioral Health Professionals,<br />
Churches&#8217; Network For Non-Violence,<br />
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,<br />
Parenting In Jesus&#8217; Footsteps,<br />
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,<br />
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.</p>
<p>In 26 countries, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-5140</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your argument about the slippery slope is a good one. While the research showing a link between spanking and bad outcomes for kids (e.g., delinquency, mental health, etc) is not real strong, there is some pretty strong evidence that spanking just doesn&#039;t work. It may work for immediate compliance, but in the long run it doesn&#039;t help a child learn WHY the behavior is bad and so they don&#039;t internalize the value you&#039;re trying to teach them. I think this is where the slippery slope argument comes into play. Because spanking is usually not a good long-term form of discipline, the parent has to keep ramping it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your argument about the slippery slope is a good one. While the research showing a link between spanking and bad outcomes for kids (e.g., delinquency, mental health, etc) is not real strong, there is some pretty strong evidence that spanking just doesn&#8217;t work. It may work for immediate compliance, but in the long run it doesn&#8217;t help a child learn WHY the behavior is bad and so they don&#8217;t internalize the value you&#8217;re trying to teach them. I think this is where the slippery slope argument comes into play. Because spanking is usually not a good long-term form of discipline, the parent has to keep ramping it up.</p>
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		<title>By: frostatmidnight</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spanking is a very silly thing indeed, and *should* be against the law. After all, it&#039;s totally illogical that it is legal to smack a child, whatever the excuse, but it&#039;s against the law to hit another adult. If it&#039;s acceptable for a parent to spank, swat, or whatever terminology they use to make spanking acceptable in their mind, then I&#039;m of the opinion that I should be able to smack every moronic adult I run into on a daily basis, of which there are plenty. 

Mothers who spank their children should also not mind being slapped by their husbands either when their husband feels they&#039;ve done something wrong, or when he feels angry at them about something. 

Hitting children is wrong and there is no justification for it whatsoever. Parents should use logic to bring up their children and not emotions and hitting. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spanking is a very silly thing indeed, and *should* be against the law. After all, it&#8217;s totally illogical that it is legal to smack a child, whatever the excuse, but it&#8217;s against the law to hit another adult. If it&#8217;s acceptable for a parent to spank, swat, or whatever terminology they use to make spanking acceptable in their mind, then I&#8217;m of the opinion that I should be able to smack every moronic adult I run into on a daily basis, of which there are plenty. </p>
<p>Mothers who spank their children should also not mind being slapped by their husbands either when their husband feels they&#8217;ve done something wrong, or when he feels angry at them about something. </p>
<p>Hitting children is wrong and there is no justification for it whatsoever. Parents should use logic to bring up their children and not emotions and hitting. End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFeministBreeder</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-5036</link>
		<dc:creator>TheFeministBreeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I can offer my perspective, as a person who grew up in an incredibly abusive household - there was no escalation.  The people who beat me did not start as loving parents who swatted their children.  They were violent individuals who displayed physical aggression toward anyone and everyone.  My mother stabbed my step-father with a pear knife while she was holding me when I was 3.  I remember it like it was yesterday.  I mostly lived with my grandparents, and my grandfather was a vicious man who would beat me any time he felt like it.  Again, it wasn&#039;t about discipline.  It was my punishment for walking in front of the TV, or for bringing him a glass of water that wasn&#039;t cold enough, or for simply being in the same room when he had a bad day.  This wasn&#039;t a loving-parent situation.

But still... look at me.  I&#039;m not a tyrant.  I love my kids more than anything in the world and I treat them with an incredible amount of respect.  I do believe in free will, and I chose to break that cycle.  I believe everyone has that choice.  

I just think that people who beat their kids are a whole different breed of person than someone who has once-upon-a-time resorted to swatting.  And if someone is looking for an excuse to start beating their kids, none of this will matter to them.  Of course, this was only MY experience with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I can offer my perspective, as a person who grew up in an incredibly abusive household &#8211; there was no escalation.  The people who beat me did not start as loving parents who swatted their children.  They were violent individuals who displayed physical aggression toward anyone and everyone.  My mother stabbed my step-father with a pear knife while she was holding me when I was 3.  I remember it like it was yesterday.  I mostly lived with my grandparents, and my grandfather was a vicious man who would beat me any time he felt like it.  Again, it wasn&#8217;t about discipline.  It was my punishment for walking in front of the TV, or for bringing him a glass of water that wasn&#8217;t cold enough, or for simply being in the same room when he had a bad day.  This wasn&#8217;t a loving-parent situation.</p>
<p>But still&#8230; look at me.  I&#8217;m not a tyrant.  I love my kids more than anything in the world and I treat them with an incredible amount of respect.  I do believe in free will, and I chose to break that cycle.  I believe everyone has that choice.  </p>
<p>I just think that people who beat their kids are a whole different breed of person than someone who has once-upon-a-time resorted to swatting.  And if someone is looking for an excuse to start beating their kids, none of this will matter to them.  Of course, this was only MY experience with it.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-5033</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Bunny&lt;/strong&gt; True, but it becomes a slippery slope too. After a while, the light swat on the behind doesn&#039;t work, so you step it up to a harder swat on the behind, then maybe something more...If the spanker has a history of being abused, then there is an even greater chance of that happening too. Same as how many people with histories of alcoholism in their family cannot drink at all because it just leads them down a slippery slope (others can though and are fine). Personally, there are many reasons that I choose not to spank my kids. The potential of them turning into criminals isn&#039;t the first or most important one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Bunny</strong> True, but it becomes a slippery slope too. After a while, the light swat on the behind doesn&#8217;t work, so you step it up to a harder swat on the behind, then maybe something more&#8230;If the spanker has a history of being abused, then there is an even greater chance of that happening too. Same as how many people with histories of alcoholism in their family cannot drink at all because it just leads them down a slippery slope (others can though and are fine). Personally, there are many reasons that I choose not to spank my kids. The potential of them turning into criminals isn&#8217;t the first or most important one.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-5031</link>
		<dc:creator>Bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, glad you posted this topic; I&#039;m looking forward to hearing what other people have to say. I thoroughly enjoy your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, glad you posted this topic; I&#8217;m looking forward to hearing what other people have to say. I thoroughly enjoy your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/04/30/spank-out-day/#comment-5030</link>
		<dc:creator>Bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, TheFeministBreeder.

@ phdinparenting: There is a VAST difference between kids being spanked and kids getting the sh** kicked out of them. If statistics show that more criminals were &quot;spanked,&quot; it is far more likely that they were beaten as children and not merely disciplined with a swat on the behind when no other option worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, TheFeministBreeder.</p>
<p>@ phdinparenting: There is a VAST difference between kids being spanked and kids getting the sh** kicked out of them. If statistics show that more criminals were &#8220;spanked,&#8221; it is far more likely that they were beaten as children and not merely disciplined with a swat on the behind when no other option worked.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFeministBreeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheFeministBreeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the part that makes it seem bogus to me is (I&#039;m totally paraphrasing cause I don&#039;t have time to go back through the links to find the quote) it said tha &quot;90% of parents spank their toddlers.&quot;  And it says that anyone who doesn&#039;t end up a felon &quot;just got lucky.&quot;

So, it&#039;s pure &quot;luck&quot; that not 90% of people are rapists and felons?  That math is ludicrous.  That whole statement is hilariously bias.  That particular study doesn&#039;t call out the difference between an occasional swat because a parent is at he end of their rope, or ongoing physical abuse.  I think there is a massive difference between the two.

It&#039;s like those people who tout breastfeeding as the cure-all and say it will make your kid smarter.  Come on.  I&#039;m a lactivist and even I know that&#039;s not true.  If we&#039;re real about it, then people will be more likely to listen.

This is great topic... and I&#039;m glad you brought it up.  It&#039;s helpful to hear about other parent&#039;s styles of discipline.  I don&#039;t think any of us have it 100% figured out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the part that makes it seem bogus to me is (I&#8217;m totally paraphrasing cause I don&#8217;t have time to go back through the links to find the quote) it said tha &#8220;90% of parents spank their toddlers.&#8221;  And it says that anyone who doesn&#8217;t end up a felon &#8220;just got lucky.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s pure &#8220;luck&#8221; that not 90% of people are rapists and felons?  That math is ludicrous.  That whole statement is hilariously bias.  That particular study doesn&#8217;t call out the difference between an occasional swat because a parent is at he end of their rope, or ongoing physical abuse.  I think there is a massive difference between the two.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like those people who tout breastfeeding as the cure-all and say it will make your kid smarter.  Come on.  I&#8217;m a lactivist and even I know that&#8217;s not true.  If we&#8217;re real about it, then people will be more likely to listen.</p>
<p>This is great topic&#8230; and I&#8217;m glad you brought it up.  It&#8217;s helpful to hear about other parent&#8217;s styles of discipline.  I don&#8217;t think any of us have it 100% figured out.</p>
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