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		<title>By: Grin and bear it? Parenting, happiness and the pressure cooker &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grin and bear it? Parenting, happiness and the pressure cooker &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a parent these days. But in addition to their being more on the parent&#8217;s plate, there is also no longer a village there to help raise the child.  So when we sit in our single family homes where we don&#8217;t know our neighbours and live [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a parent these days. But in addition to their being more on the parent&#8217;s plate, there is also no longer a village there to help raise the child.  So when we sit in our single family homes where we don&#8217;t know our neighbours and live [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Intersecting Needs: Maslow, interdependence, parenting, caregiving, relationships &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intersecting Needs: Maslow, interdependence, parenting, caregiving, relationships &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] say it takes a village, and it is true. While we can all get through difficult parenting moments alone and put our needs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dr. Phil Stay-at-home mom vs. working mom show &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/07/31/it-takes-a-village-to-raise-a-child/#comment-20260</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Phil Stay-at-home mom vs. working mom show &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Build the right village: Whether you are a stay at home mom who is suffering from isolation or a work out of home mom who needs to be able to trust the people that care for her children, creating a village is so important. It isn&#8217;t always easy to build that village because the natural villages that used to exist have disappeared. In my opinion, if you don&#8217;t work at building that village, you will suffer over time. You need people you can turn to for adult conversation or to give yourself a break. Read more: It takes a village to raise a child.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Build the right village: Whether you are a stay at home mom who is suffering from isolation or a work out of home mom who needs to be able to trust the people that care for her children, creating a village is so important. It isn&#8217;t always easy to build that village because the natural villages that used to exist have disappeared. In my opinion, if you don&#8217;t work at building that village, you will suffer over time. You need people you can turn to for adult conversation or to give yourself a break. Read more: It takes a village to raise a child.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jenn,
Can you go to La Leche League meetings?
Join a mother&#039;s group?
Find a community which supports AP parenting and move there?
Hire some help around the house so you feel less stressed about the cleanliness and have more time to work out how you would like to change ytour living style with your daughter?
Hope you find a solution that wokrs for you!
Kind regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jenn,<br />
Can you go to La Leche League meetings?<br />
Join a mother&#8217;s group?<br />
Find a community which supports AP parenting and move there?<br />
Hire some help around the house so you feel less stressed about the cleanliness and have more time to work out how you would like to change ytour living style with your daughter?<br />
Hope you find a solution that wokrs for you!<br />
Kind regards</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an AP mom and happen to be single with no family support. I am exhausted but I cannot imagine doing this any  other way. It bothers me a lot that no one in my family cares enough to come over or help care for my daughter. She is almost a year now and does not know anyone in the family because she rarely sees any of them. She has never had a baby sitter and I never get a full night&#039;s sleep. My hosue is never anywhere near clean and my daughter craves attention  from others. Having no family is lonely and I feel guilty that she will grow up not having  bigfamily gatherings or regular stopins from people who love her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an AP mom and happen to be single with no family support. I am exhausted but I cannot imagine doing this any  other way. It bothers me a lot that no one in my family cares enough to come over or help care for my daughter. She is almost a year now and does not know anyone in the family because she rarely sees any of them. She has never had a baby sitter and I never get a full night&#8217;s sleep. My hosue is never anywhere near clean and my daughter craves attention  from others. Having no family is lonely and I feel guilty that she will grow up not having  bigfamily gatherings or regular stopins from people who love her.</p>
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		<title>By: FamilyNature</title>
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		<dc:creator>FamilyNature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, thanks for clearing that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, thanks for clearing that up.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sarah: 

The reading I have done about traditional societies has the mother, along with a close knit group of other family members/neighbour women, caring for the baby for about the first two years. During that time, the child is not pushed to be independent, but is expected to be an extension of the mother and be at the breast, on the back, sleeping next to the mother. Yes, those are things that I call &quot;tools&quot; of attachment parenting. Not rules. I believe it is easier to foster an attachment when using those tools, but not impossible to do so if you don&#039;t. A mother, in a traditional society, can go about her day while staying physically close to her baby if she wears her baby. Whereas a western modern mother who pushes her baby around in a stroller or places that baby in a swing at home, may need to more proactively take time out of her busy day to ensure to create that connection. 

In traditional societies, at around the 2 year mark, the care of the child is often transferred from the mother to the village. In fact, some of the things I have been reading in that regard were what prompted me to write this post. Mothers do not have to do everything on their own from birth to age 18 (or beyond). They can create a circle of trust, a village, and find a way to transfer elements of their child&#039;s care, both physical and emotional, to that village. In traditional societies, that is often older children. However, I don&#039;t think that a lot of our Western institutions are what one would constitute a village. A structured school setting with 20 or more 5 year olds in a kindergarten classroom or a day care setting where the early childhood educators are so busy wiping bums, feeding, dressing to go outside, cleaning up and putting to sleep the X number of children in their care, are not exactly &quot;village&quot; type environments. Some are perhaps, but most are not. 

In any case, the point of this post was not to glorify traditional child rearing or to criticize non-AP practices. The point was to send mothers the message that they don&#039;t need to do everything on their own, but they may need to work at creating a village if they don&#039;t want to be alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sarah: </p>
<p>The reading I have done about traditional societies has the mother, along with a close knit group of other family members/neighbour women, caring for the baby for about the first two years. During that time, the child is not pushed to be independent, but is expected to be an extension of the mother and be at the breast, on the back, sleeping next to the mother. Yes, those are things that I call &#8220;tools&#8221; of attachment parenting. Not rules. I believe it is easier to foster an attachment when using those tools, but not impossible to do so if you don&#8217;t. A mother, in a traditional society, can go about her day while staying physically close to her baby if she wears her baby. Whereas a western modern mother who pushes her baby around in a stroller or places that baby in a swing at home, may need to more proactively take time out of her busy day to ensure to create that connection. </p>
<p>In traditional societies, at around the 2 year mark, the care of the child is often transferred from the mother to the village. In fact, some of the things I have been reading in that regard were what prompted me to write this post. Mothers do not have to do everything on their own from birth to age 18 (or beyond). They can create a circle of trust, a village, and find a way to transfer elements of their child&#8217;s care, both physical and emotional, to that village. In traditional societies, that is often older children. However, I don&#8217;t think that a lot of our Western institutions are what one would constitute a village. A structured school setting with 20 or more 5 year olds in a kindergarten classroom or a day care setting where the early childhood educators are so busy wiping bums, feeding, dressing to go outside, cleaning up and putting to sleep the X number of children in their care, are not exactly &#8220;village&#8221; type environments. Some are perhaps, but most are not. </p>
<p>In any case, the point of this post was not to glorify traditional child rearing or to criticize non-AP practices. The point was to send mothers the message that they don&#8217;t need to do everything on their own, but they may need to work at creating a village if they don&#8217;t want to be alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Andi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FamilyNature: Just responding to Sarah V&#039;s post, no more and no less.  My intention was to suggest that the &quot;us-versus-them&quot; mentality can keep the &quot;village&quot; from being formed, though in retrospect I didn&#039;t make that link clear in my post.  Sorry for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FamilyNature: Just responding to Sarah V&#8217;s post, no more and no less.  My intention was to suggest that the &#8220;us-versus-them&#8221; mentality can keep the &#8220;village&#8221; from being formed, though in retrospect I didn&#8217;t make that link clear in my post.  Sorry for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Andi:&lt;/strong&gt; I don&#039;t deny that that does happen in some places. That is why I wrote my post describing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/16/what-is-attachment-parenting/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what attachment parenting is&lt;/a&gt;. I see it from both angles - I see parents say &quot;I couldn&#039;t possibly do AP because....[insert name of AP tool that they cannot use and reason why]&quot; and I also see people say &quot;you aren&#039;t AP if....[insert name of specific AP tool that they are not using]&quot;. For me, AP is less about the tools (babywearing, breastfeeding, bed sharing, etc.) and more about the attitude or approach to babies and children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Andi:</strong> I don&#8217;t deny that that does happen in some places. That is why I wrote my post describing <a href="http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/16/what-is-attachment-parenting/" rel="nofollow">what attachment parenting is</a>. I see it from both angles &#8211; I see parents say &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t possibly do AP because&#8230;.[insert name of AP tool that they cannot use and reason why]&#8221; and I also see people say &#8220;you aren&#8217;t AP if&#8230;.[insert name of specific AP tool that they are not using]&#8220;. For me, AP is less about the tools (babywearing, breastfeeding, bed sharing, etc.) and more about the attitude or approach to babies and children.</p>
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		<title>By: FamilyNature</title>
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		<dc:creator>FamilyNature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sarah V and Andi: Just so that I&#039;m clear, the two of you are making the point that &quot;some people&quot; who are AP berate other parents based on three parenting practices? And that some parents have an &quot;us-versus-them&quot; mentality? Are you saying that Annie is doing that in this post? Or that it just happens &quot;sometimes&quot; with &quot;some people&quot;? 

If you&#039;re not referring to Annie or this post, I have to wonder what place your comments have here and exactly what your motivation for posting them is. I could also say that &quot;some people&quot; do all kinds of things but I don&#039;t know what this has to do with this post which is about (correct me if I&#039;m wrong) how we often parent alone and that we could all do well with some help from our &quot;village&quot; in whatever form that may be.

I think that when comments get off topic like this, the conversation tends to get aggressive or confrontational and it really becomes about something that it wasn&#039;t about it the first place. In my mind this does more to create an &quot;us-versus-them&quot; mentality than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sarah V and Andi: Just so that I&#8217;m clear, the two of you are making the point that &#8220;some people&#8221; who are AP berate other parents based on three parenting practices? And that some parents have an &#8220;us-versus-them&#8221; mentality? Are you saying that Annie is doing that in this post? Or that it just happens &#8220;sometimes&#8221; with &#8220;some people&#8221;? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not referring to Annie or this post, I have to wonder what place your comments have here and exactly what your motivation for posting them is. I could also say that &#8220;some people&#8221; do all kinds of things but I don&#8217;t know what this has to do with this post which is about (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) how we often parent alone and that we could all do well with some help from our &#8220;village&#8221; in whatever form that may be.</p>
<p>I think that when comments get off topic like this, the conversation tends to get aggressive or confrontational and it really becomes about something that it wasn&#8217;t about it the first place. In my mind this does more to create an &#8220;us-versus-them&#8221; mentality than anything else.</p>
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