Comments on: Are people who don’t get the H1N1 vaccine idiots? http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/ ...exploring the art and science of parenting Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:32:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jax http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-41323 Jax Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:24:31 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-41323 "Um, those who “properly” take care of their bodies with the right nutrition will never and I repeat NEVER EVER suffer chronic illness." Alright, now is time for being blunt: That is a RIDICULOUSLY ableist thing to say. Not just ableist. Ridiculously ableist. And ridiculously incorrect, as well. “Um, those who “properly” take care of their bodies with the right nutrition will never and I repeat NEVER EVER suffer chronic illness.”

Alright, now is time for being blunt:

That is a RIDICULOUSLY ableist thing to say.

Not just ableist. Ridiculously ableist. And ridiculously incorrect, as well.

]]> By: Jax http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-41322 Jax Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:17:12 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-41322 That depends on the vaccine. Different vaccines work with different parts of the immune system, based on what people who develop those vaccines have determined is the best way to prevent those illnesses. That depends on the vaccine. Different vaccines work with different parts of the immune system, based on what people who develop those vaccines have determined is the best way to prevent those illnesses.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-35146 Daniel Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:41:10 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-35146 Um, those who "properly" take care of their bodies with the right nutrition will never and I repeat NEVER EVER suffer chronic illness. For some ideas about living healthy till 100 and over read "Healthy at 100" John Robbins. And by the way... you will not find info on proper care of your body on television. Well.. maybe only the exercise part of the show called The Biggest Loser. All nutrition advice on TV is WRONG. Fat Free eating? WRONG! Low Carbs? WRONG! Read Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon. You will never see the world the same way again. And your health will be better for it too. Need proof? Me and my family as well as thousands of other who have been sick and are now enjoying great health by going back to the basics of traditional eating of natural foods. You see we are NOT scientific proof because we are regular people who do things that don't make big pharma any money. (most scientific research is funded by big corporations to make them money) As a matter of fact, if I told you I became cancer free from eating certain foods, I will probably go to jail... thanks to FDA whose top heads are sleeping around with big pharma. Need proof for that too? Research the job histories of all top heads of FDA officials and big pharma whores. Thanks for your time. Um, those who “properly” take care of their bodies with the right nutrition will never and I repeat NEVER EVER suffer chronic illness.
For some ideas about living healthy till 100 and over read “Healthy at 100″ John Robbins.

And by the way… you will not find info on proper care of your body on television. Well.. maybe only the exercise part of the show called The Biggest Loser. All nutrition advice on TV is WRONG. Fat Free eating? WRONG! Low Carbs? WRONG!

Read Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon. You will never see the world the same way again. And your health will be better for it too. Need proof? Me and my family as well as thousands of other who have been sick and are now enjoying great health by going back to the basics of traditional eating of natural foods. You see we are NOT scientific proof because we are regular people who do things that don’t make big pharma any money. (most scientific research is funded by big corporations to make them money) As a matter of fact, if I told you I became cancer free from eating certain foods, I will probably go to jail… thanks to FDA whose top heads are sleeping around with big pharma. Need proof for that too? Research the job histories of all top heads of FDA officials and big pharma whores.

Thanks for your time.

]]> By: Tom http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-33530 Tom Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:46:46 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-33530 H1N1 is a scam, its a scam designed to scare American people into getting a vaccine, because if they do that, the Big Pharma industry makes some serious bank, think about it $25 x how many people, looks like people in Big Pharma got some nice christmas gifts for their kids........if you get it, you're nothing more than a piece of a paycheck for those people......and listen, the only time i ever get the flu is when i get the flu shot..........interesting huh? I say, don't get the flu shot, but if you wanna listen to people who are trying to make money off of you, go for it. H1N1 is a scam, its a scam designed to scare American people into getting a vaccine, because if they do that, the Big Pharma industry makes some serious bank, think about it $25 x how many people, looks like people in Big Pharma got some nice christmas gifts for their kids……..if you get it, you’re nothing more than a piece of a paycheck for those people……and listen, the only time i ever get the flu is when i get the flu shot……….interesting huh? I say, don’t get the flu shot, but if you wanna listen to people who are trying to make money off of you, go for it.

]]> By: J. http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-26586 J. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:48:23 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-26586 Susan: I'm glad that everything worked out for you. Aren't you glad that we live in a society where people have freedom of choice? You can choose what's right for your family. Others can choose otherwise. Health Canada is posting adverse reactions, so I guess you can take that up with them. Most neurological reactions would be based on the adjuvants not the virus, so they wouldn't be based on seroconversion rates of the vaccine. Gardasil is a whole other subject. Based on the clinical trial results and the FUTURES II study, I would never allow my daughter to get it. Sure, it's effective against those strains covered, but other HPV strains then fill the void, so net gain is negligible. But I guess they can keep adding more and more strains to the vaccine... Susan: I’m glad that everything worked out for you. Aren’t you glad that we live in a society where people have freedom of choice? You can choose what’s right for your family. Others can choose otherwise.
Health Canada is posting adverse reactions, so I guess you can take that up with them. Most neurological reactions would be based on the adjuvants not the virus, so they wouldn’t be based on seroconversion rates of the vaccine.
Gardasil is a whole other subject. Based on the clinical trial results and the FUTURES II study, I would never allow my daughter to get it. Sure, it’s effective against those strains covered, but other HPV strains then fill the void, so net gain is negligible. But I guess they can keep adding more and more strains to the vaccine…

]]> By: Susan http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-26514 Susan Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:03:47 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-26514 One more thing, I had NO side effects from the H1N1 vaccine and neither did my 12 yr old daughter. Absolutely NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you claim you had fever, or flu like symptoms after receiving the vaccine, most likely you had already been exposed to an illness (virus) and your symptoms had nothing to do with the actual vaccine. Vaccines actually take a full 2 weeks to give you immunity. To Courtney above, sorry your child has autism, but it has already been proven that autism has nothing to do with immunizations. Please read up on latest findings, there is a genetic link to that Also, it is your choice not to give your child the gardisal vaccine ( which has already been proven to be safe) but I chose it for my 12 yr old because even though I will teach her about safe sex, all the preaching in the world will not protect her from the evils of the world, as I most certainly learned over 20 years ago when I was sexually assaulted and picked up the deadly HPV virus because of that horrible night. How thrilled I am to know my baby can be protected from that. One more thing, I had NO side effects from the H1N1 vaccine and neither did my 12 yr old daughter. Absolutely NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you claim you had fever, or flu like symptoms after receiving the vaccine, most likely you had already been exposed to an illness (virus) and your symptoms had nothing to do with the actual vaccine. Vaccines actually take a full 2 weeks to give you immunity.

To Courtney above, sorry your child has autism, but it has already been proven that autism has nothing to do with immunizations. Please read up on latest findings, there is a genetic link to that

Also, it is your choice not to give your child the gardisal vaccine ( which has already been proven to be safe) but I chose it for my 12 yr old because even though I will teach her about safe sex, all the preaching in the world will not protect her from the evils of the world, as I most certainly learned over 20 years ago when I was sexually assaulted and picked up the deadly HPV virus because of that horrible night. How thrilled I am to know my baby can be protected from that.

]]> By: Susan http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-26511 Susan Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:49:51 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-26511 I would not call anyone an idiot, but I would call them ignorant. As I was reading some posts on here, so many feel that the flu is not actually dangerous. I have had the flu once in my life, and at the time my resistance was down, it knocked me out for over a week. Obviously, I did not die, I was a healthy adult at the time, however, very VERY ILL. Flu kills healthy people as well, and the swine flu is killing healthy children AND adults. I did not hesitate for a moment to get the H1N1 vaccine for my child and I also received it ( as I now have a chronic medical condition). I really hope that those who choose not to vaccinate do not regret it later on. I would not call anyone an idiot, but I would call them ignorant. As I was reading some posts on here, so many feel that the flu is not actually dangerous. I have had the flu once in my life, and at the time my resistance was down, it knocked me out for over a week. Obviously, I did not die, I was a healthy adult at the time, however, very VERY ILL. Flu kills healthy people as well, and the swine flu is killing healthy children AND adults. I did not hesitate for a moment to get the H1N1 vaccine for my child and I also received it ( as I now have a chronic medical condition). I really hope that those who choose not to vaccinate do not regret it later on.

]]> By: On vaccines, safety and doublespeak | PhD in Parenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-26145 On vaccines, safety and doublespeak | PhD in Parenting Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:12:06 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-26145 [...] wrote previously about balancing the pros and cons of the H1N1 vaccine in making the best decision for your family. We decided to get vaccinated. However, I still think [...] [...] wrote previously about balancing the pros and cons of the H1N1 vaccine in making the best decision for your family. We decided to get vaccinated. However, I still think [...]

]]> By: phdinparenting http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-26034 phdinparenting Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:01:50 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-26034 The Government of Canada finally released its report on adverse reactions to the H1N1 vaccine. Out of 6.6 million doses distributed (not sure how many administered of those), there were 634 adverse effects, 36 serious adverse effects, and one fatal case of anaphylaxis. http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/vacc/addeve-eng.php The Government of Canada finally released its report on adverse reactions to the H1N1 vaccine. Out of 6.6 million doses distributed (not sure how many administered of those), there were 634 adverse effects, 36 serious adverse effects, and one fatal case of anaphylaxis.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/vacc/addeve-eng.php

]]> By: J. http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/10/30/are-people-who-dont-get-the-h1n1-vaccine-idiots/#comment-25695 J. Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:20:44 +0000 http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3053#comment-25695 Here is a summary report put out by the Australian government on H1N1 here: http://www.healthemergency.gov.au/internet/healthemergency/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu2009.htm/$File/ozflu-no26-2009.pdf It's interesting reading. Note in the chart on page 3 (Figure 1) that reported cases were almost back to baseline before the vaccine was introduced. Also, the stats on page 9 show that for Australia, it did not cause significant mortality in young people. Yes, the age of infection was low, but the average age of mortality was 54 years. Here is a summary report put out by the Australian government on H1N1 here:

http://www.healthemergency.gov.au/internet/healthemergency/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu2009.htm/$File/ozflu-no26-2009.pdf

It’s interesting reading. Note in the chart on page 3 (Figure 1) that reported cases were almost back to baseline before the vaccine was introduced.

Also, the stats on page 9 show that for Australia, it did not cause significant mortality in young people. Yes, the age of infection was low, but the average age of mortality was 54 years.

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