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		<title>By: Carla</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/10/one-womans-battle-to-get-her-daughter-back/#comment-132663</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie,

I&#039;m sorry for what you&#039;ve experienced, and I hope you are eventually able to reconnect with your son.  It&#039;s just unconscionable to cut off families like that.  Unfortunately, there are people out there who will pretend to be whatever they need to be in order to get a baby, and they&#039;re very good at it...  too many mothers (and fathers) only discover the deception *far* too late, after they&#039;ve made life-altering decisions because of false promises.

Carla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry for what you&#8217;ve experienced, and I hope you are eventually able to reconnect with your son.  It&#8217;s just unconscionable to cut off families like that.  Unfortunately, there are people out there who will pretend to be whatever they need to be in order to get a baby, and they&#8217;re very good at it&#8230;  too many mothers (and fathers) only discover the deception *far* too late, after they&#8217;ve made life-altering decisions because of false promises.</p>
<p>Carla</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 01:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also learned the hard way that open adoption documents are unenforceable and *some* adoptive parents will agree to anything to get the baby, then disappear.  I was supposed to get contact up to four times a year and photos four times a year.  I saw my son twice before they just *poof*...no forwarding address, no phone, and the adoption was, essentially, closed.  When I went back to the adoption agency, they defended the adoptive parents and basically said it was best for my son to have &quot;less confusion&quot; about his parents.  

I remember seeing your adoption story and not liking these parents.  There was something selfish about them...I think what bothered me the most was they just continued working full time and acted as though the baby were an accessory.  I don&#039;t remember most of the adoption stories, but that one stood out.  I never really understood why you chose them.  But then again, why did I choose people who did the exact same thing? (Other than she was a stay at home mom and they ARE great parents.  I just don&#039;t know what I did wrong that made them decide to pull all contact.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also learned the hard way that open adoption documents are unenforceable and *some* adoptive parents will agree to anything to get the baby, then disappear.  I was supposed to get contact up to four times a year and photos four times a year.  I saw my son twice before they just *poof*&#8230;no forwarding address, no phone, and the adoption was, essentially, closed.  When I went back to the adoption agency, they defended the adoptive parents and basically said it was best for my son to have &#8220;less confusion&#8221; about his parents.  </p>
<p>I remember seeing your adoption story and not liking these parents.  There was something selfish about them&#8230;I think what bothered me the most was they just continued working full time and acted as though the baby were an accessory.  I don&#8217;t remember most of the adoption stories, but that one stood out.  I never really understood why you chose them.  But then again, why did I choose people who did the exact same thing? (Other than she was a stay at home mom and they ARE great parents.  I just don&#8217;t know what I did wrong that made them decide to pull all contact.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To MG Lazarus, 

You say that the money could be used in a better way?  This is Carla&#039;s child she is dealing with...  There is nothing in the world that is more important than a person’s child so I don&#039;t think she is putting her money in the wrong place.  Personally, I think that Peri should stay where she is and the courts should require that the adoptive parents maintain the openness they agreed on in the first place… updates, photos, and opportunities for Carla and her kids to see and visit Peri.  Visitations would probably have to be done in a monitored visitation situation rather than with Peri’s adoptive parents since obviously they probably aren’t able to get along well enough anymore to visit each other’s homes in order for Peri to remain in contact with her birth family.  BUT, I of course don’t know the whole situation and what Carla knows that makes her think Peri is unsafe… if Peri is being abused then obviously she shouldn’t be in the home.  While I do think that morally and ethically Carla should have custody of Peri due to an obvious fraudulent adoption, I don’t think that it’s healthiest for Peri, no matter what Carla does to ease Peri into a change that will flip her entire life upside down… Peri adjusting to the visits with Carla and her family, who she no longer knows (sadly), will be hard enough on her.  I may disagree a bit on the case, BUT, saying that the money could be spent in a  better way when Carla doesn’t feel her child is safe is ridiculous… a parent will do whatever they can for their child.  Before we know it Peri will be old enough to find and read all about what has gone on and her adoptive parents will have an awful lot of explaining to do.  While it may be too late to change Peri’s situation, I sure hope that this situation helps to prevent this from happening in the future in other adoptions.  Obviously laws need to change so that adoptive parents can’t get away with this.  My heart certainly goes out to Carla… what happened in the adoption of Peri is absolutely awful and should never have been able to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To MG Lazarus, </p>
<p>You say that the money could be used in a better way?  This is Carla&#8217;s child she is dealing with&#8230;  There is nothing in the world that is more important than a person’s child so I don&#8217;t think she is putting her money in the wrong place.  Personally, I think that Peri should stay where she is and the courts should require that the adoptive parents maintain the openness they agreed on in the first place… updates, photos, and opportunities for Carla and her kids to see and visit Peri.  Visitations would probably have to be done in a monitored visitation situation rather than with Peri’s adoptive parents since obviously they probably aren’t able to get along well enough anymore to visit each other’s homes in order for Peri to remain in contact with her birth family.  BUT, I of course don’t know the whole situation and what Carla knows that makes her think Peri is unsafe… if Peri is being abused then obviously she shouldn’t be in the home.  While I do think that morally and ethically Carla should have custody of Peri due to an obvious fraudulent adoption, I don’t think that it’s healthiest for Peri, no matter what Carla does to ease Peri into a change that will flip her entire life upside down… Peri adjusting to the visits with Carla and her family, who she no longer knows (sadly), will be hard enough on her.  I may disagree a bit on the case, BUT, saying that the money could be spent in a  better way when Carla doesn’t feel her child is safe is ridiculous… a parent will do whatever they can for their child.  Before we know it Peri will be old enough to find and read all about what has gone on and her adoptive parents will have an awful lot of explaining to do.  While it may be too late to change Peri’s situation, I sure hope that this situation helps to prevent this from happening in the future in other adoptions.  Obviously laws need to change so that adoptive parents can’t get away with this.  My heart certainly goes out to Carla… what happened in the adoption of Peri is absolutely awful and should never have been able to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: MG Lazarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>MG Lazarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to judge if Ms. Moquin is damaging this child&#039;s mental health and her future. However, I can very well say that the money could be used in a better way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to judge if Ms. Moquin is damaging this child&#8217;s mental health and her future. However, I can very well say that the money could be used in a better way.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrea,

I guess we&#039;ll just have to see what the appeals court does.  I think you might feel differently if you believed your own child was living with people who had committed fraud to take her (and keep her) away from her biological family; many people do not believe that makes for a healthy environment.  Also, as KH mentioned, harm to children does not always take a physical form.

As to your concerns about college funds, Peri&#039;s sisters are thriving and their college situation will be just fine, and I am sure that Peri&#039;s college prospects will be fine as well--regardless of how this case turns out.

Carla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea,</p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;ll just have to see what the appeals court does.  I think you might feel differently if you believed your own child was living with people who had committed fraud to take her (and keep her) away from her biological family; many people do not believe that makes for a healthy environment.  Also, as KH mentioned, harm to children does not always take a physical form.</p>
<p>As to your concerns about college funds, Peri&#8217;s sisters are thriving and their college situation will be just fine, and I am sure that Peri&#8217;s college prospects will be fine as well&#8211;regardless of how this case turns out.</p>
<p>Carla</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/10/one-womans-battle-to-get-her-daughter-back/#comment-102007</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to hear that Ms. Moquin has decided to continue with this case. I don&#039;t think she can win and this case will likely drain the finances and the emotional resources of the child&#039;s adoptive parents. The money could be better used in Peri&#039;s college fund and the stress and uncertainty her parents are experiencing are bound to have a negative impact on the child herself. Unless this kid is actually being abused, which she is not, since this case has been so high profile that CPS would have investigated and removed her if she were,  I don&#039;t think it would be in her best interest to remove her from her home at seven or eight or nine. There is no possible way Ms. Moquin could make that right, even if she claims she&#039;d try to maintain contact with the adoptive parents. Ms. Moquin is ruining this kid&#039;s life, her sense of security, and probably doing some damage to her other children as well. The money that is being spent on this court case could have gone in THEIR college funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that Ms. Moquin has decided to continue with this case. I don&#8217;t think she can win and this case will likely drain the finances and the emotional resources of the child&#8217;s adoptive parents. The money could be better used in Peri&#8217;s college fund and the stress and uncertainty her parents are experiencing are bound to have a negative impact on the child herself. Unless this kid is actually being abused, which she is not, since this case has been so high profile that CPS would have investigated and removed her if she were,  I don&#8217;t think it would be in her best interest to remove her from her home at seven or eight or nine. There is no possible way Ms. Moquin could make that right, even if she claims she&#8217;d try to maintain contact with the adoptive parents. Ms. Moquin is ruining this kid&#8217;s life, her sense of security, and probably doing some damage to her other children as well. The money that is being spent on this court case could have gone in THEIR college funds.</p>
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		<title>By: KH</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/10/one-womans-battle-to-get-her-daughter-back/#comment-99603</link>
		<dc:creator>KH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 05:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is nice to read different points of view on this issue, it is interesting to me that people do not realize the extent that children can be abused (physically and verbally) without any intervention on their behalf.  Children are abused every day in the US and nobody notices.  They learn to live with it because it is the only life they know - &quot;better the devil you know than the devil you don&#039;t.&quot;  

It is not easy for any one of us to know what the right thing is in every situation in life; however, if we can right a wrong, we have that responsibility.  We all do what we believe is right and I support that.  In Carla&#039;s case (joblessness, marriage problems, unplanned pregnancy, etc.), there but for the grace of God, go I, so I will not be one to judge.  

Whatever outcome occurs, there will be a lot of healing on all sides that will take time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is nice to read different points of view on this issue, it is interesting to me that people do not realize the extent that children can be abused (physically and verbally) without any intervention on their behalf.  Children are abused every day in the US and nobody notices.  They learn to live with it because it is the only life they know &#8211; &#8220;better the devil you know than the devil you don&#8217;t.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It is not easy for any one of us to know what the right thing is in every situation in life; however, if we can right a wrong, we have that responsibility.  We all do what we believe is right and I support that.  In Carla&#8217;s case (joblessness, marriage problems, unplanned pregnancy, etc.), there but for the grace of God, go I, so I will not be one to judge.  </p>
<p>Whatever outcome occurs, there will be a lot of healing on all sides that will take time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an adoptive parents&#039; worst nightmare! My gut reaction is to say, &quot;this exactly why adoptive parents are afraid of openness and contact!&quot; But at the same, I saw the TLC episode of adoption stories. I love my daughter&#039;s birthmom and would never hurt her. We do not have much contact for a variety of reasons, but I would never knowingly deceive her. Open adoption is a way of life, not what you do to get a birthmom to agree to adoption.

I am concerned however...there was a comment made that Carla did not respect the roles and boundaries of the relationship. If this the case, the adoptive mother has not only the right but the responsibility to contol contact.

Reguardless, my heart goes out to all involved. This is a devistating situation for all involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an adoptive parents&#8217; worst nightmare! My gut reaction is to say, &#8220;this exactly why adoptive parents are afraid of openness and contact!&#8221; But at the same, I saw the TLC episode of adoption stories. I love my daughter&#8217;s birthmom and would never hurt her. We do not have much contact for a variety of reasons, but I would never knowingly deceive her. Open adoption is a way of life, not what you do to get a birthmom to agree to adoption.</p>
<p>I am concerned however&#8230;there was a comment made that Carla did not respect the roles and boundaries of the relationship. If this the case, the adoptive mother has not only the right but the responsibility to contol contact.</p>
<p>Reguardless, my heart goes out to all involved. This is a devistating situation for all involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla Moquin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla Moquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,

Thank you for your support.  Interesting about Ontario law--I&#039;ll have to do more research (once my daughter&#039;s situation is resolved--time is limited at the moment, as I&#039;m sure you can imagine).  I believe California law states that the adoption is void if the relinquishment was obtained through fraud, so if I prove the fraud, then my parental rights would automatically return--I would automatically be Peri&#039;s legal parent again.  S&amp;D have already stated that they plan to try to keep her *even if* I prove the fraud, so the fight may not be over even if I win on appeal, but we&#039;ll see how things go.

Carla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,</p>
<p>Thank you for your support.  Interesting about Ontario law&#8211;I&#8217;ll have to do more research (once my daughter&#8217;s situation is resolved&#8211;time is limited at the moment, as I&#8217;m sure you can imagine).  I believe California law states that the adoption is void if the relinquishment was obtained through fraud, so if I prove the fraud, then my parental rights would automatically return&#8211;I would automatically be Peri&#8217;s legal parent again.  S&amp;D have already stated that they plan to try to keep her *even if* I prove the fraud, so the fight may not be over even if I win on appeal, but we&#8217;ll see how things go.</p>
<p>Carla</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering what had happened with this - I&#039;m sorry that your family is continuing to wait it out in the courts. Things work differently here, so I apologize if it&#039;s an obvious question: is it automatic that custody would be returned to the birth parents if the adoption order is overturned? Here, it wouldn&#039;t be - termination of parental rights and the granting of an adoption are totally separate in Ontario anyway. It can actually be a major issue if parents sign to relinquish on different days: if the other parent changes their mind and sues for custody, the other parent cannot fight them for it (or at least not successfully to date). 
I presume in that case you then have to apply for custody and go through all the process to &quot;adopt&quot; as kin(homestudy, police checks, etc...), but am not aware of it ever happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering what had happened with this &#8211; I&#8217;m sorry that your family is continuing to wait it out in the courts. Things work differently here, so I apologize if it&#8217;s an obvious question: is it automatic that custody would be returned to the birth parents if the adoption order is overturned? Here, it wouldn&#8217;t be &#8211; termination of parental rights and the granting of an adoption are totally separate in Ontario anyway. It can actually be a major issue if parents sign to relinquish on different days: if the other parent changes their mind and sues for custody, the other parent cannot fight them for it (or at least not successfully to date).<br />
I presume in that case you then have to apply for custody and go through all the process to &#8220;adopt&#8221; as kin(homestudy, police checks, etc&#8230;), but am not aware of it ever happening.</p>
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