<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Christmas: a time for cookies, carols, cookies, and conflicting ideals</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/</link>
	<description>...exploring the art and science of parenting</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:24:55 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Happy Holidays! — PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-215691</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Holidays! — PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 05:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-215691</guid>
		<description>[...] A couple of years ago here on my blog, Arwyn from Raising my Boychick wrote about Christmas, cookies, carols, cookies, and conflicting ideals. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A couple of years ago here on my blog, Arwyn from Raising my Boychick wrote about Christmas, cookies, carols, cookies, and conflicting ideals. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ready for Christmas? &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-97930</link>
		<dc:creator>Ready for Christmas? &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 01:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-97930</guid>
		<description>[...] Christmas: A time for cookies, carols, cookies and conflicting ideals (Arwyn from Raising my Boychic...: Last year Arwyn wrote a great Christmas-themed blog post for me while we were away on vacation. Read her thoughts on her love-hate relationship with the season. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Christmas: A time for cookies, carols, cookies and conflicting ideals (Arwyn from Raising my Boychic&#8230;: Last year Arwyn wrote a great Christmas-themed blog post for me while we were away on vacation. Read her thoughts on her love-hate relationship with the season. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MomTFH</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-31714</link>
		<dc:creator>MomTFH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-31714</guid>
		<description>Sorry I&#039;m late to the party. I am just catching up on my blog feeder. What a great post! Reading almost felt like you&#039;d been in my head the past week! I am a heathen atheist non consumerist anti red dyeist, but I have been talking to my kids about Jesus and Santa because the underlying themes are about togetherness, giving and happiness, and because it&#039;s our families culture, and I don&#039;t want to rain on that parade every year. 

Thanks for the excellent guest post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I&#8217;m late to the party. I am just catching up on my blog feeder. What a great post! Reading almost felt like you&#8217;d been in my head the past week! I am a heathen atheist non consumerist anti red dyeist, but I have been talking to my kids about Jesus and Santa because the underlying themes are about togetherness, giving and happiness, and because it&#8217;s our families culture, and I don&#8217;t want to rain on that parade every year. </p>
<p>Thanks for the excellent guest post.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: abbie</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-31390</link>
		<dc:creator>abbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-31390</guid>
		<description>I love this post.  You put into words much of what I feel, and why I as an atheist choose to celebrate Christmas with my family.  I have always explained that I celebrate with my family, and that being together with our traditions is what&#039;s special to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post.  You put into words much of what I feel, and why I as an atheist choose to celebrate Christmas with my family.  I have always explained that I celebrate with my family, and that being together with our traditions is what&#8217;s special to me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: slee</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-31030</link>
		<dc:creator>slee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-31030</guid>
		<description>As I&#039;ve gotten older, I&#039;ve learned Santa *is* real. He&#039;s all the kind people who put forth an effort to help others less fortunate.
We celebrate Christmas even though I&#039;m a pagan girl. Spouse is christian and dd leans that way. We are doing a yule this year if I am well enough. I have 1 gift for each child that night. A book, and I think it will be positively wonderful for both of them, eve though snapdragon is only 7months old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve gotten older, I&#8217;ve learned Santa *is* real. He&#8217;s all the kind people who put forth an effort to help others less fortunate.<br />
We celebrate Christmas even though I&#8217;m a pagan girl. Spouse is christian and dd leans that way. We are doing a yule this year if I am well enough. I have 1 gift for each child that night. A book, and I think it will be positively wonderful for both of them, eve though snapdragon is only 7months old.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Melodie</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-31028</link>
		<dc:creator>Melodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-31028</guid>
		<description>If I had the talent for writing that you do I could have written this myself! I&#039;m pagan with tightly held and cherished Christian-based traditions. I do Santa, and like Summer I am an ex-anti Santa mom. I realized I didn&#039;t want to leave my kids out of all the magic the other kids experience. I get by the lying -thing by telling them he&#039;s magic. Because magic lasts forever, right?  I&#039;m also a whole foodie who bakes up a storm. I just made and devoured 2 dozen chocolate covered coconut balls, made with evaporated milk and icing sugar. Oh so good! My mom baked dozens of different kinds of squares and cookies when I was a kid so it&#039;s in my bones I think. After Christmas I&#039;ll try to get us all back on track. I&#039;m still trying to figure out how to create some of our own traditions, waiting for something to stick. This year we did advent paper chains and an advent giving jar. This will be the first year that our oldest really gets Christmas, although she still doesn&#039;t get the whole asking for presents thing. All she wants for Xmas is an umbrella because hers broke. I love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had the talent for writing that you do I could have written this myself! I&#8217;m pagan with tightly held and cherished Christian-based traditions. I do Santa, and like Summer I am an ex-anti Santa mom. I realized I didn&#8217;t want to leave my kids out of all the magic the other kids experience. I get by the lying -thing by telling them he&#8217;s magic. Because magic lasts forever, right?  I&#8217;m also a whole foodie who bakes up a storm. I just made and devoured 2 dozen chocolate covered coconut balls, made with evaporated milk and icing sugar. Oh so good! My mom baked dozens of different kinds of squares and cookies when I was a kid so it&#8217;s in my bones I think. After Christmas I&#8217;ll try to get us all back on track. I&#8217;m still trying to figure out how to create some of our own traditions, waiting for something to stick. This year we did advent paper chains and an advent giving jar. This will be the first year that our oldest really gets Christmas, although she still doesn&#8217;t get the whole asking for presents thing. All she wants for Xmas is an umbrella because hers broke. I love it!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-30908</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-30908</guid>
		<description>We enjoy it but try to keep things pretty simple. The two older kids (4 &amp; 7) are old enough to be really, really into it all. I like to encourage them to make presents for family members, my oldest is planning a show for the Christmas party the extended family has, and probably after Christmas this year we&#039;ll have them go through their old toys for ones to give to charity. Some years we manage that before Christmas.

We do make cookies and leave them out for Santa. The kids love that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We enjoy it but try to keep things pretty simple. The two older kids (4 &amp; 7) are old enough to be really, really into it all. I like to encourage them to make presents for family members, my oldest is planning a show for the Christmas party the extended family has, and probably after Christmas this year we&#8217;ll have them go through their old toys for ones to give to charity. Some years we manage that before Christmas.</p>
<p>We do make cookies and leave them out for Santa. The kids love that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: maria</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-30897</link>
		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-30897</guid>
		<description>well, this inspired me to go dust off a post from the vault: &lt;a href=&quot;http://smallredhouse.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-christmas-can-mean.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what christmas can mean&lt;/a&gt; at the currently-defunct small red house. written by a spiritual post-theist kinda-earthy unitarian universalist with christian heritage (who is partnered with a secular humanist cultural jew). that sums up my personal philosophy/theology of christmas.

in the two years since i wrote that, i&#039;ve reflected more on the evolution of our family&#039;s holiday traditions...i&#039;ve had to come to terms with the fact that i&#039;m the only one in our family who celebrates christmas here in any way that approaches meaningful (my stepdaughter is always at her mom&#039;s for christmas, and here for two of the eight nights of chanukah, so chanukah tends to be the winter holiday we focus on with her). our family doesn&#039;t embrace christmas the way mine did when i was growing up. 

as a jew who grew up on the edge of the bible belt, my partner doesn&#039;t share my cultural-christian privilege; he is not as eager to adopt a syncretic approach to religion, and i don&#039;t blame him. so i stopped dragging him to christmas eve services after a couple of years. it was important for me to share that part of my life with him at least once, but it was not so important that i felt justified asking him to relive the experience year after year, when it really does make him uncomfortable. where he grew up (a place he otherwise loves), my partner was told, explicitly and implicitly, (and often in school), that jews are just sort of christians who haven&#039;t realized it. it took me a while to wrap my head around that and realize how privileged and disrespectful that mentality is; how even though it may well be an attempt to focus on what we have in common, it still centers christianity as the norm, the ideal, and any other religious traditions as the other or as some inferior (but &quot;tolerable!&quot;) versions of christianity. and unfortunately, christmas is the time of year when this attitude is pretty unapologetically in-your-face in western culture. 

anyway, whee privilege. i know this totally wasn&#039;t what you were asking for, but it&#039;s what i&#039;ve had to learn and accept about christmas in our family so far. right now the fact that SD&#039;s mom is christian and her dad is jewish makes dividing the holidays pretty simple, and because i was raised a liberal la-la syncretic UU, it&#039;s been pretty easy for me to embrace my partner&#039;s jewish traditions to whatever extent works for us (although i&#039;ve been careful to try to let him take the lead, and not to go appropriating it all because I&#039;m So Open-Minded). personally, singing in a choir has helped me to get my christmas tradition ya-yas out. we spend christmas day exchanging presents with my family, but it&#039;s never much of a production, especially since we have already exchanged some when SD is here for chanukah. i don&#039;t know what we would do if we had other kids; i&#039;d probably want to do more to celebrate christmas with them, but i&#039;m not sure what or how much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, this inspired me to go dust off a post from the vault: <a href="http://smallredhouse.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-christmas-can-mean.html" rel="nofollow">what christmas can mean</a> at the currently-defunct small red house. written by a spiritual post-theist kinda-earthy unitarian universalist with christian heritage (who is partnered with a secular humanist cultural jew). that sums up my personal philosophy/theology of christmas.</p>
<p>in the two years since i wrote that, i&#8217;ve reflected more on the evolution of our family&#8217;s holiday traditions&#8230;i&#8217;ve had to come to terms with the fact that i&#8217;m the only one in our family who celebrates christmas here in any way that approaches meaningful (my stepdaughter is always at her mom&#8217;s for christmas, and here for two of the eight nights of chanukah, so chanukah tends to be the winter holiday we focus on with her). our family doesn&#8217;t embrace christmas the way mine did when i was growing up. </p>
<p>as a jew who grew up on the edge of the bible belt, my partner doesn&#8217;t share my cultural-christian privilege; he is not as eager to adopt a syncretic approach to religion, and i don&#8217;t blame him. so i stopped dragging him to christmas eve services after a couple of years. it was important for me to share that part of my life with him at least once, but it was not so important that i felt justified asking him to relive the experience year after year, when it really does make him uncomfortable. where he grew up (a place he otherwise loves), my partner was told, explicitly and implicitly, (and often in school), that jews are just sort of christians who haven&#8217;t realized it. it took me a while to wrap my head around that and realize how privileged and disrespectful that mentality is; how even though it may well be an attempt to focus on what we have in common, it still centers christianity as the norm, the ideal, and any other religious traditions as the other or as some inferior (but &#8220;tolerable!&#8221;) versions of christianity. and unfortunately, christmas is the time of year when this attitude is pretty unapologetically in-your-face in western culture. </p>
<p>anyway, whee privilege. i know this totally wasn&#8217;t what you were asking for, but it&#8217;s what i&#8217;ve had to learn and accept about christmas in our family so far. right now the fact that SD&#8217;s mom is christian and her dad is jewish makes dividing the holidays pretty simple, and because i was raised a liberal la-la syncretic UU, it&#8217;s been pretty easy for me to embrace my partner&#8217;s jewish traditions to whatever extent works for us (although i&#8217;ve been careful to try to let him take the lead, and not to go appropriating it all because I&#8217;m So Open-Minded). personally, singing in a choir has helped me to get my christmas tradition ya-yas out. we spend christmas day exchanging presents with my family, but it&#8217;s never much of a production, especially since we have already exchanged some when SD is here for chanukah. i don&#8217;t know what we would do if we had other kids; i&#8217;d probably want to do more to celebrate christmas with them, but i&#8217;m not sure what or how much.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: beth aka confusedhomemaker</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-30878</link>
		<dc:creator>beth aka confusedhomemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-30878</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t know if you saw the latest issue of Mothering Magazine but there are some nice ideas on how to create rituals &amp; traditions this time of year that are not specifically religious but bring in some of that same feeling.  If you are looking for that, it might be something to consider for the future.  

Also, we are focusing more on making things together &amp; the enjoyment of creating.  This year we are adding in making a variety of ornaments &amp; hopefully we&#039;ll be able to do this every year from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you saw the latest issue of Mothering Magazine but there are some nice ideas on how to create rituals &amp; traditions this time of year that are not specifically religious but bring in some of that same feeling.  If you are looking for that, it might be something to consider for the future.  </p>
<p>Also, we are focusing more on making things together &amp; the enjoyment of creating.  This year we are adding in making a variety of ornaments &amp; hopefully we&#8217;ll be able to do this every year from now on.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Emerson</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/17/christmas-a-time-for-cookies-carols-cookies-and-conflicting-ideals/#comment-30821</link>
		<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.phdinparenting.com/?p=3465#comment-30821</guid>
		<description>Believed Santa was real till 5.  Still love Christmas.  Nice getting gifts.  Nicer giving them, now I am older.

Still believe in Santa.  I look enough like the jolly old elf that kids mistake me for him.  Even have the red suit.  Shopping as a secret santa in the mall a few weeks ago a cute little girl said &quot;look moma, theres santa&quot;.  Wasnt even in the suit, though I was wearing the hat.  

St Nicholas was a historical human.  The rest is the magic of belief.

As for the tree, I always have had one.  One year I bought a live one and planted it afterwards.  Last time I drove by that old house it was still growing there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believed Santa was real till 5.  Still love Christmas.  Nice getting gifts.  Nicer giving them, now I am older.</p>
<p>Still believe in Santa.  I look enough like the jolly old elf that kids mistake me for him.  Even have the red suit.  Shopping as a secret santa in the mall a few weeks ago a cute little girl said &#8220;look moma, theres santa&#8221;.  Wasnt even in the suit, though I was wearing the hat.  </p>
<p>St Nicholas was a historical human.  The rest is the magic of belief.</p>
<p>As for the tree, I always have had one.  One year I bought a live one and planted it afterwards.  Last time I drove by that old house it was still growing there.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

