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	<title>Comments on: Why I Don&#8217;t Spank</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very good points, but I choose not to spank because I believe it is wrong.  Not because I don&#039;t trust myself, not because experts recommend against it, but because I believe it is unethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very good points, but I choose not to spank because I believe it is wrong.  Not because I don&#8217;t trust myself, not because experts recommend against it, but because I believe it is unethical.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jennifer: But aren&#039;t you also teaching her at the same time that it is appropriate to smack someone if they do something you don&#039;t want them to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jennifer: But aren&#8217;t you also teaching her at the same time that it is appropriate to smack someone if they do something you don&#8217;t want them to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cavemother  I too have considered that point.  Which is my reasoning for using properly and calmly administered hand-smacking on my 13.5 month old.  Obviously, we as humans do have that capacity for higher reasoning as phd points out.  And we should use that to teach our children.  But at her age, she can&#039;t yet respond to that type of reasoning- she can&#039;t think about why it&#039;s a bad idea...she is more like the baby animal going too far in play.  So when she reaches for things that are dangerous, etc., I smack her little hand to help her learn that boundary.  And I do it very promptly, as she reaches, so that she associates the smack with the questionable item.  If you wait any amount of time, even a minute, then that association is lost and then your child really will believe that you just smack them at random-because you basically did.  I&#039;m not willy-nilly beating her in anger- I&#039;m teaching her to protect her.  Yes, I watch over her, but I&#039;m simply not Super Man; one day she will be near an uncovered electrical outlet with nobody watching, so I want her to think very bad thoughts about them!  As she gets older and able to understand, then we can shift to reasoning about these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cavemother  I too have considered that point.  Which is my reasoning for using properly and calmly administered hand-smacking on my 13.5 month old.  Obviously, we as humans do have that capacity for higher reasoning as phd points out.  And we should use that to teach our children.  But at her age, she can&#8217;t yet respond to that type of reasoning- she can&#8217;t think about why it&#8217;s a bad idea&#8230;she is more like the baby animal going too far in play.  So when she reaches for things that are dangerous, etc., I smack her little hand to help her learn that boundary.  And I do it very promptly, as she reaches, so that she associates the smack with the questionable item.  If you wait any amount of time, even a minute, then that association is lost and then your child really will believe that you just smack them at random-because you basically did.  I&#8217;m not willy-nilly beating her in anger- I&#8217;m teaching her to protect her.  Yes, I watch over her, but I&#8217;m simply not Super Man; one day she will be near an uncovered electrical outlet with nobody watching, so I want her to think very bad thoughts about them!  As she gets older and able to understand, then we can shift to reasoning about these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/18/3481/#comment-32774</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tiffany: 

I have a number of discipline book suggestions in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phdinparenting.com/my-parenting-library/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Parenting Library&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tiffany: </p>
<p>I have a number of discipline book suggestions in <a href="http://www.phdinparenting.com/my-parenting-library/" rel="nofollow">My Parenting Library</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I don&#039;t want to hit my child, either. Do you have any book suggestions for parenting without spanking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I don&#8217;t want to hit my child, either. Do you have any book suggestions for parenting without spanking?</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a spanker, now I&#039;m not. Specifically because, as you said, &quot;I don’t trust myself to use corporal punishment in a manner that is free of anger.&quot; I can remember every time I hit my child with anger behind it and I&#039;m ashamed of it. 

But I&#039;m also proud of myself for changing and learning and working very hard to be a better parent. And by that I mean learning and using other techniques and not resorting to angry spanking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a spanker, now I&#8217;m not. Specifically because, as you said, &#8220;I don’t trust myself to use corporal punishment in a manner that is free of anger.&#8221; I can remember every time I hit my child with anger behind it and I&#8217;m ashamed of it. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m also proud of myself for changing and learning and working very hard to be a better parent. And by that I mean learning and using other techniques and not resorting to angry spanking.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary @ Parenthood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary @ Parenthood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your photos.  I have to say that I&#039;m in the minority here; in that I don&#039;t necessarily agree.

I&#039;ve read a lot of research on the topic, including the rational by the various pediatric societies.  I get where it&#039;s coming from.  I haven&#039;t had any reason to spank my child - yet.  I don&#039;t know that it&#039;s a method of punishment that I would use.  My parents were spankers though, and not only do I feel that I was not harmed by it; frankly it was one of the only effective punishments for me and my brother growing up.  (He doesn&#039;t feel harmed either).  It was always a punishment of last resort.

I think the big difference was that we were never, ever spanked in the heat of the moment.  My parents would wait until they were completely calm before administering the spanking, which was done ceremoniously with a very large wooden spoon.  Waiting for your spanking was definitely the worst part.  I don&#039;t recall the spanking actually hurting - the punishment was mainly psychological.  My parents always coupled the spank with a talk about why it was happening, and usually with tears in their eyes. The child was then expected to apologize and make restitution as best as we were able.  My parents always assured us of their love immediately after the spanking. 

The few times my parents lost their tempers and yelled at us though?  THAT left scars.  I&#039;m absolutely convinced that yelling is just as harmful as spanking-in-the-heat-of-the-moment.  I don&#039;t think either are acceptable.

I hear what you are saying about different strategies for different personalities.  I hear what people are saying about mixed messages.  But I just can&#039;t bring myself to condemn people who choose to spank-not-in-the-heat-of-the-moment (ie discipline is not an excuse to lose your temper).  Some kids ARE very physical in the way that they interpret the world, and spanking sends a much clearer and easier to understand message than a lot of arguing, words and disappointed words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your photos.  I have to say that I&#8217;m in the minority here; in that I don&#8217;t necessarily agree.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot of research on the topic, including the rational by the various pediatric societies.  I get where it&#8217;s coming from.  I haven&#8217;t had any reason to spank my child &#8211; yet.  I don&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s a method of punishment that I would use.  My parents were spankers though, and not only do I feel that I was not harmed by it; frankly it was one of the only effective punishments for me and my brother growing up.  (He doesn&#8217;t feel harmed either).  It was always a punishment of last resort.</p>
<p>I think the big difference was that we were never, ever spanked in the heat of the moment.  My parents would wait until they were completely calm before administering the spanking, which was done ceremoniously with a very large wooden spoon.  Waiting for your spanking was definitely the worst part.  I don&#8217;t recall the spanking actually hurting &#8211; the punishment was mainly psychological.  My parents always coupled the spank with a talk about why it was happening, and usually with tears in their eyes. The child was then expected to apologize and make restitution as best as we were able.  My parents always assured us of their love immediately after the spanking. </p>
<p>The few times my parents lost their tempers and yelled at us though?  THAT left scars.  I&#8217;m absolutely convinced that yelling is just as harmful as spanking-in-the-heat-of-the-moment.  I don&#8217;t think either are acceptable.</p>
<p>I hear what you are saying about different strategies for different personalities.  I hear what people are saying about mixed messages.  But I just can&#8217;t bring myself to condemn people who choose to spank-not-in-the-heat-of-the-moment (ie discipline is not an excuse to lose your temper).  Some kids ARE very physical in the way that they interpret the world, and spanking sends a much clearer and easier to understand message than a lot of arguing, words and disappointed words.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what you have written here, Amber. In fact, I actually wrote a very similar post back in September: http://metropolitanmama.net/2009/09/7-reasons-we-dont-spank/.

Thanks for sharing your research, your reasons, and your reflections on this topic. I appreciate your eloquent way of writing (and your corresponding photos are so fun too!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you have written here, Amber. In fact, I actually wrote a very similar post back in September: <a href="http://metropolitanmama.net/2009/09/7-reasons-we-dont-spank/" rel="nofollow">http://metropolitanmama.net/2009/09/7-reasons-we-dont-spank/</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your research, your reasons, and your reflections on this topic. I appreciate your eloquent way of writing (and your corresponding photos are so fun too!).</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/12/18/3481/#comment-31151</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FamilyNature: 

Me too. But it is tough. The situations that make me the most angry are the ones where it is &lt;em&gt;most important&lt;/em&gt; that I act appropriately &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; where it is &lt;em&gt;most unlikely&lt;/em&gt; that I will come up with the best response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FamilyNature: </p>
<p>Me too. But it is tough. The situations that make me the most angry are the ones where it is <em>most important</em> that I act appropriately <strong>and</strong> where it is <em>most unlikely</em> that I will come up with the best response.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cave Mother:

I think language is part of it, but higher reasoning is another part. I want to (and can) teach my children to think about why to do or not to do something. I don&#039;t need to use fear of physical violence to teach them to act appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cave Mother:</p>
<p>I think language is part of it, but higher reasoning is another part. I want to (and can) teach my children to think about why to do or not to do something. I don&#8217;t need to use fear of physical violence to teach them to act appropriately.</p>
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