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		<title>By: Misty</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/02/does-breastfeeding-hurt-if-it-is-painful-is-something-wrong/#comment-222936</link>
		<dc:creator>Misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re right - balance! As Annie said, it&#039;s a fine line between &quot;it can hurt&quot; and &quot;it never hurts.&quot; I think mother-guilt makes us automatically assume that we did something wrong if it&#039;s hurting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right &#8211; balance! As Annie said, it&#8217;s a fine line between &#8220;it can hurt&#8221; and &#8220;it never hurts.&#8221; I think mother-guilt makes us automatically assume that we did something wrong if it&#8217;s hurting</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep the high palate was the culprit with my daughter, too, and she was also sucking her bottom lip in a bit. The first two months, I had to continually pull her bottom lip out, which would often ruin the latch, so I&#039;d relatch her.... then repeat, repeat, repeat. I was in tears often because of the pain and the frustration. I just wanted her to eat, and I wanted it to not hurt. It really affected the pleasure of having a newborn -- I just wanted her to get bigger.

See my earlier post -- I was in the midst of that misery -- it was a looooong road to get to the point where it no longer hurts. I would say a good 9 weeks. At that point, she was big enough to get a good mouthful. Now, at 11 weeks, my milk supply on the left side is still working itself out because of all the ups and downs we had. 

The language about breastfeeding often implies that the reasons why it may hurt are the mother&#039;s fault. What is she doing wrong? You&#039;re so right, Mo, to suggest that it&#039;s not right either for mothers to feel like they should just push on if it hurts and it&#039;ll get better soon, when there may be things she can do to lessen the pain. Somewhere in the middle, a balance, like you said.... 

This blog was more helpful than any resource I looked at because it showed a myriad of experience for breastfeeding mothers. To feel I was not alone, that other mothers went through the same thing and still went on to nurse, was something I clung to in some of those desperate, painful times when I curled my toes and just wanted to give up. It showed that balance between &quot;yes there is a reason&quot; and &quot;no it&#039;s not necessarily your fault&quot; that I so badly needed to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep the high palate was the culprit with my daughter, too, and she was also sucking her bottom lip in a bit. The first two months, I had to continually pull her bottom lip out, which would often ruin the latch, so I&#8217;d relatch her&#8230;. then repeat, repeat, repeat. I was in tears often because of the pain and the frustration. I just wanted her to eat, and I wanted it to not hurt. It really affected the pleasure of having a newborn &#8212; I just wanted her to get bigger.</p>
<p>See my earlier post &#8212; I was in the midst of that misery &#8212; it was a looooong road to get to the point where it no longer hurts. I would say a good 9 weeks. At that point, she was big enough to get a good mouthful. Now, at 11 weeks, my milk supply on the left side is still working itself out because of all the ups and downs we had. </p>
<p>The language about breastfeeding often implies that the reasons why it may hurt are the mother&#8217;s fault. What is she doing wrong? You&#8217;re so right, Mo, to suggest that it&#8217;s not right either for mothers to feel like they should just push on if it hurts and it&#8217;ll get better soon, when there may be things she can do to lessen the pain. Somewhere in the middle, a balance, like you said&#8230;. </p>
<p>This blog was more helpful than any resource I looked at because it showed a myriad of experience for breastfeeding mothers. To feel I was not alone, that other mothers went through the same thing and still went on to nurse, was something I clung to in some of those desperate, painful times when I curled my toes and just wanted to give up. It showed that balance between &#8220;yes there is a reason&#8221; and &#8220;no it&#8217;s not necessarily your fault&#8221; that I so badly needed to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a balance.</description>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I do think that it&#039;s important to note that there was a specific cause to your pain.  I think the point is that basic breastfeeding, minus the possible issues should not be excruciatingly painful.  When there are issues, which are obviously common, then pain can occur.  It does hurt, but because of something.  When told it&#039;s going to hurt, it can make a mother, like me, fail to correct those issues causing the pain since &quot;it&#039;s supposed to hurt&quot;.  I wish I&#039;d had more people telling me that if it was hurting as badly as it was, that there was something wrong and that I didn&#039;t need to just push on.  I think I would have fixed what was going on a lot sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I do think that it&#8217;s important to note that there was a specific cause to your pain.  I think the point is that basic breastfeeding, minus the possible issues should not be excruciatingly painful.  When there are issues, which are obviously common, then pain can occur.  It does hurt, but because of something.  When told it&#8217;s going to hurt, it can make a mother, like me, fail to correct those issues causing the pain since &#8220;it&#8217;s supposed to hurt&#8221;.  I wish I&#8217;d had more people telling me that if it was hurting as badly as it was, that there was something wrong and that I didn&#8217;t need to just push on.  I think I would have fixed what was going on a lot sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a sister who definitely had zero issues with breastfeeding.  She said it never hurt.  Her babies just latched on and were good to go.  

For me, I had been told that it was normal for it to hurt, so I let it hurt.  By the time my son was 5 days old I dreaded nursing, it made my toes curl from pain and my nipples were scabbed and I bled every time he latched on.  I saw my midwife, a lactation consultant, etc.  Everyone said he had a wonderful latch and I could attest to the fact that he had a strong, hoover vacuum-like latch.  But when I went in at 5 days old, to check his bilirubin levels as he was severely jaundiced, the nurse practitioner asked me how everything was going and I broke down bawling in the middle of the waiting area surrounded by a ton of other parents and children.  She took me into an exam room and after a minute of watching me nurse gave a tiny tug to my son&#039;s chin and said he was tucking in just the tiniest bit of his lower lip.  And she was right.  Every time I nursed, for a few weeks till he caught on, I had to tug his little chin and the latch was 1000 times better.  I was so severely injured by the bad latch it took me about 2 weeks to heal, but I will never tell another new mom it is supposed to hurt.  I think the Dr. Jack Newman quote is spot on.  I wouldn&#039;t want another new mom going through what I did.  I had two natural births, the first at a birthing center and the second at home and what my kids ingest and put on their bodies is extremely important to me, but had the pediatrician or my husband or anyone said, &quot;It&#039;s okay, just give him formula&quot; I would have jumped at the suggestion.  It was just excruciating.  With my second son we had some latch difficulties (good initial latch and then he&#039;d pull back and mess it up).  It just took teaching him a bit and it was fine.  But I knew better this time and didn&#039;t let him latch on incorrectly.  I went on to nurse my first son till he self-weaned at 15.5 months and recently my second son weaned at a bit passed 2.  I loved nursing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a sister who definitely had zero issues with breastfeeding.  She said it never hurt.  Her babies just latched on and were good to go.  </p>
<p>For me, I had been told that it was normal for it to hurt, so I let it hurt.  By the time my son was 5 days old I dreaded nursing, it made my toes curl from pain and my nipples were scabbed and I bled every time he latched on.  I saw my midwife, a lactation consultant, etc.  Everyone said he had a wonderful latch and I could attest to the fact that he had a strong, hoover vacuum-like latch.  But when I went in at 5 days old, to check his bilirubin levels as he was severely jaundiced, the nurse practitioner asked me how everything was going and I broke down bawling in the middle of the waiting area surrounded by a ton of other parents and children.  She took me into an exam room and after a minute of watching me nurse gave a tiny tug to my son&#8217;s chin and said he was tucking in just the tiniest bit of his lower lip.  And she was right.  Every time I nursed, for a few weeks till he caught on, I had to tug his little chin and the latch was 1000 times better.  I was so severely injured by the bad latch it took me about 2 weeks to heal, but I will never tell another new mom it is supposed to hurt.  I think the Dr. Jack Newman quote is spot on.  I wouldn&#8217;t want another new mom going through what I did.  I had two natural births, the first at a birthing center and the second at home and what my kids ingest and put on their bodies is extremely important to me, but had the pediatrician or my husband or anyone said, &#8220;It&#8217;s okay, just give him formula&#8221; I would have jumped at the suggestion.  It was just excruciating.  With my second son we had some latch difficulties (good initial latch and then he&#8217;d pull back and mess it up).  It just took teaching him a bit and it was fine.  But I knew better this time and didn&#8217;t let him latch on incorrectly.  I went on to nurse my first son till he self-weaned at 15.5 months and recently my second son weaned at a bit passed 2.  I loved nursing.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
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		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think *more* women need to breastfeed in public without covers to facilitate the normalization of breastfeeding, but I don&#039;t think that any specific woman should be forced to nurse in a way that makes her uncomfortable. 

I created a video illustrating my point. If you haven&#039;t seen it, please check it out: http://www.phdinparenting.com/2011/02/20/coveringup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think *more* women need to breastfeed in public without covers to facilitate the normalization of breastfeeding, but I don&#8217;t think that any specific woman should be forced to nurse in a way that makes her uncomfortable. </p>
<p>I created a video illustrating my point. If you haven&#8217;t seen it, please check it out: <a href="http://www.phdinparenting.com/2011/02/20/coveringup" rel="nofollow">http://www.phdinparenting.com/2011/02/20/coveringup</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s great if some women want to show other women in public how nursing is done, but personally I don&#039;t feel that every woman needs to &quot;ditch the nursing cover&quot; just so that the rest of society can learn how to breastfeed. That&#039;s not my personal responsibility---my responsibility is to feed my child in whatever way works best for both of us. If this involves a nursing cover so I can feel comfortable doing it in public, then great, now I won&#039;t need to feed my child a bottle in public. Not all of us are comfortable baring our breasts in public. To those who are, more power to ya! But don&#039;t look down on others for using a nursing cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s great if some women want to show other women in public how nursing is done, but personally I don&#8217;t feel that every woman needs to &#8220;ditch the nursing cover&#8221; just so that the rest of society can learn how to breastfeed. That&#8217;s not my personal responsibility&#8212;my responsibility is to feed my child in whatever way works best for both of us. If this involves a nursing cover so I can feel comfortable doing it in public, then great, now I won&#8217;t need to feed my child a bottle in public. Not all of us are comfortable baring our breasts in public. To those who are, more power to ya! But don&#8217;t look down on others for using a nursing cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Misty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a post about this a while ago (http://thechickadeetweet.blogspot.com/2011/01/things-were-not-allowed-to-say.html) It&#039;s my own experience about the fact that there WAS no fix for my sore nipples. I did everything possible, and they continued to be sore well into my second month postpartum. It was due to my daughter&#039;s high palate, and nothing could fix that but time. Thanks so much for writing about this - I&#039;m so tired of  the &quot;it&#039;s not supposed to hurt&quot; refrain, because sometimes, it really does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a post about this a while ago (<a href="http://thechickadeetweet.blogspot.com/2011/01/things-were-not-allowed-to-say.html" rel="nofollow">http://thechickadeetweet.blogspot.com/2011/01/things-were-not-allowed-to-say.html</a>) It&#8217;s my own experience about the fact that there WAS no fix for my sore nipples. I did everything possible, and they continued to be sore well into my second month postpartum. It was due to my daughter&#8217;s high palate, and nothing could fix that but time. Thanks so much for writing about this &#8211; I&#8217;m so tired of  the &#8220;it&#8217;s not supposed to hurt&#8221; refrain, because sometimes, it really does.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with breastfeeding was very painful from the start, mostly due to problems that took weeks to fix: poor latch, injured nipples, thrush (which I&#039;ve had again at least six times over the last year &amp; a half). Then came the biting, which he&#039;s stopped, but I still get tooth imprints on my nipple. 

17 months of breastfeeding &amp; I still usually have discomfort with let down. It varies, depending on the time of day, but sometimes it&#039;s verging on painful for 30 seconds to a minute. Once the milk gets going, it&#039;s fine (except for trying to find a position that&#039;s comfortable where he won&#039;t be tugging on my breast). 

I think there has to be some kind of middle ground between the &#039;breastfeeding is all rainbows &amp; unicorns&#039; &amp; &#039;just tough it out&#039;. I don&#039;t think the official line from midwives, doctors, LCs, nurses, etc, or more advertising campaigns are really that helpful. That stuff all has its place, I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s not valuable, but maybe we need to go back to the way breastfeeding knowledge use to be passed on: from family &amp; friends. Breastfeeding openly everywhere &amp; talking about our experiences lots so that women who haven&#039;t had babies yet will learn about it that way. &amp; ditch the freaking nursing covers already--how will anybody see what nursing looks like &amp; how normal it is if there&#039;s a tent over it all the time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with breastfeeding was very painful from the start, mostly due to problems that took weeks to fix: poor latch, injured nipples, thrush (which I&#8217;ve had again at least six times over the last year &amp; a half). Then came the biting, which he&#8217;s stopped, but I still get tooth imprints on my nipple. </p>
<p>17 months of breastfeeding &amp; I still usually have discomfort with let down. It varies, depending on the time of day, but sometimes it&#8217;s verging on painful for 30 seconds to a minute. Once the milk gets going, it&#8217;s fine (except for trying to find a position that&#8217;s comfortable where he won&#8217;t be tugging on my breast). </p>
<p>I think there has to be some kind of middle ground between the &#8216;breastfeeding is all rainbows &amp; unicorns&#8217; &amp; &#8216;just tough it out&#8217;. I don&#8217;t think the official line from midwives, doctors, LCs, nurses, etc, or more advertising campaigns are really that helpful. That stuff all has its place, I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s not valuable, but maybe we need to go back to the way breastfeeding knowledge use to be passed on: from family &amp; friends. Breastfeeding openly everywhere &amp; talking about our experiences lots so that women who haven&#8217;t had babies yet will learn about it that way. &amp; ditch the freaking nursing covers already&#8211;how will anybody see what nursing looks like &amp; how normal it is if there&#8217;s a tent over it all the time?</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a lot of pain for the first week especially, then by the end of that week it was better, the following week was better still, and I think a month or two into it was pain free. I remember in the hospital that night after he was born, sitting in bed nursing him. I&#039;d have my face screwed up tight while he nursed---although the nurses of course said &quot;his latch looks perfect.&quot; So yes, I think there is just going to be some pain--sometimes intense pain. I never had bleeding nipples, I did have a few cracks at first but those healed. I used the soothies, was religious about the Lanolin after every feeding, and I think just lucky that it wasn&#039;t worse. My sister had some horrible problems. Anyway, I think if you&#039;re getting bleeding, cracks or sores, or bruises, then it&#039;s time to really get some help. But if it&#039;s just the first month and it&#039;s just pain...maybe intense but not unbearable...then I think that&#039;s normal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a lot of pain for the first week especially, then by the end of that week it was better, the following week was better still, and I think a month or two into it was pain free. I remember in the hospital that night after he was born, sitting in bed nursing him. I&#8217;d have my face screwed up tight while he nursed&#8212;although the nurses of course said &#8220;his latch looks perfect.&#8221; So yes, I think there is just going to be some pain&#8211;sometimes intense pain. I never had bleeding nipples, I did have a few cracks at first but those healed. I used the soothies, was religious about the Lanolin after every feeding, and I think just lucky that it wasn&#8217;t worse. My sister had some horrible problems. Anyway, I think if you&#8217;re getting bleeding, cracks or sores, or bruises, then it&#8217;s time to really get some help. But if it&#8217;s just the first month and it&#8217;s just pain&#8230;maybe intense but not unbearable&#8230;then I think that&#8217;s normal.</p>
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