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		<title>By: Medela Pumps - problems - Breastfeeding Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-104708</link>
		<dc:creator>Medela Pumps - problems - Breastfeeding Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://dou-la-la.blogspot.com/2010/0...delas-who.html http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/0...sses-the-line/  I bought an Ameda PY. The closed system and the price tag were the main contributors, but the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://dou-la-la.blogspot.com/2010/0...delas-who.html" rel="nofollow">http://dou-la-la.blogspot.com/2010/0&#8230;delas-who.html</a> <a href="http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/0...sses-the-line/" rel="nofollow">http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/0&#8230;sses-the-line/</a>  I bought an Ameda PY. The closed system and the price tag were the main contributors, but the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m Fully Indoctrinated &#8212; I&#8217;ve Complained About a Bottle in Advertising &#187; DailyMomtra</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-95571</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m Fully Indoctrinated &#8212; I&#8217;ve Complained About a Bottle in Advertising &#187; DailyMomtra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Myths talked about her problem with the Peppa Pig magazine she got for her daughter, and PhD in Parenting talked about Medela being no longer WHO compliant since you can&#8217;t advertise bottles [...]</description>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-81677</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luschka:

It does depend what you are in the market for. The Ameda is a double electric and its price should be comparable to the Medela double electrics, but obviously the hand-held manual pumps are much cheaper. Avent also has a good hand-held pump, but it is also a WHO Code violator. It is really too bad that these companies cannot stay true and firm to their commitment to breastfeeding and stay away from the promotion of bottles. I don&#039;t see your comments as confrontational, but I do find the whole situation frustrating.

In any case, the decisions that I might make for myself, as an individual (e.g. to purchase a product, whether it is an affordable pump or even formula if I had to) are different than the choices I would make about what products to promote or what companies to work with. I think each person needs to determine where the line is for themselves. For me, I will recommend Medela products in a 1 on 1, mom to mom, situation, but I will also mention the benefits of other pumps and I would not agree to have Medela as an advertiser on my blog, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luschka:</p>
<p>It does depend what you are in the market for. The Ameda is a double electric and its price should be comparable to the Medela double electrics, but obviously the hand-held manual pumps are much cheaper. Avent also has a good hand-held pump, but it is also a WHO Code violator. It is really too bad that these companies cannot stay true and firm to their commitment to breastfeeding and stay away from the promotion of bottles. I don&#8217;t see your comments as confrontational, but I do find the whole situation frustrating.</p>
<p>In any case, the decisions that I might make for myself, as an individual (e.g. to purchase a product, whether it is an affordable pump or even formula if I had to) are different than the choices I would make about what products to promote or what companies to work with. I think each person needs to determine where the line is for themselves. For me, I will recommend Medela products in a 1 on 1, mom to mom, situation, but I will also mention the benefits of other pumps and I would not agree to have Medela as an advertiser on my blog, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Luschka @ Diary of a First Child</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-81675</link>
		<dc:creator>Luschka @ Diary of a First Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree in theory, but a quick google seems (i stand to be corrected) that the Ameda is at it&#039;s cheapest double the cost of my breastpump,(something that really matters to an unemployed mother living close to the breadline) and the Hygeia isn&#039;t available in the UK.  I would agree that it is worth paying extra and even importing something if it&#039;s worth it, but I know that&#039;s not possible for everyone :(

I don&#039;t mean to be confrontational here, by the way, but just raising it as another side to consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree in theory, but a quick google seems (i stand to be corrected) that the Ameda is at it&#8217;s cheapest double the cost of my breastpump,(something that really matters to an unemployed mother living close to the breadline) and the Hygeia isn&#8217;t available in the UK.  I would agree that it is worth paying extra and even importing something if it&#8217;s worth it, but I know that&#8217;s not possible for everyone <img src='http://www.phdinparenting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be confrontational here, by the way, but just raising it as another side to consider.</p>
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		<title>By: phdinparenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-81667</link>
		<dc:creator>phdinparenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luschka:

The Medela products worked well for me too and I agree that there are a lot of horrible inferior pumps on the market. At this point though, I would prefer to support quality pump companies that are WHO Code compliant, like Ameda (owned by Evenflo) and Hygeia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luschka:</p>
<p>The Medela products worked well for me too and I agree that there are a lot of horrible inferior pumps on the market. At this point though, I would prefer to support quality pump companies that are WHO Code compliant, like Ameda (owned by Evenflo) and Hygeia.</p>
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		<title>By: Luschka @ Diary of a First Child</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-81662</link>
		<dc:creator>Luschka @ Diary of a First Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - I&#039;m totally torn on this. I agree that we can&#039;t let some &#039;slide&#039; on the WHO codes and be dead against others, but I&#039;m also a really big supporter of Medela because it is what has worked best for me. I have tried other breast pumps and had no where near as much success in expressing. I am not a mom maven nor do I wish to be, but I did approach Medela for help on a project I am starting up with an orphanage in South Africa.  Looking at a  lot of other brands on the market, I feel that they are actually sometimes DETRIMENTAL to the pumping relationship with often inferior products. I have heard so many moms say they quit pumping because it just took too long or was too hard or not getting enough milk and I&#039;ve experienced that myself with especially one very popular pump, so honestly love the Medela mini... 

hmmm... what to do, what to think...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; I&#8217;m totally torn on this. I agree that we can&#8217;t let some &#8216;slide&#8217; on the WHO codes and be dead against others, but I&#8217;m also a really big supporter of Medela because it is what has worked best for me. I have tried other breast pumps and had no where near as much success in expressing. I am not a mom maven nor do I wish to be, but I did approach Medela for help on a project I am starting up with an orphanage in South Africa.  Looking at a  lot of other brands on the market, I feel that they are actually sometimes DETRIMENTAL to the pumping relationship with often inferior products. I have heard so many moms say they quit pumping because it just took too long or was too hard or not getting enough milk and I&#8217;ve experienced that myself with especially one very popular pump, so honestly love the Medela mini&#8230; </p>
<p>hmmm&#8230; what to do, what to think&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steph @ problem solvin mom</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-43174</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph @ problem solvin mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Mom Maven myself I have not noticed suggested topics to discuss on the newsletters. There is no appreciable material gain from the program, and I wouldn&#039;t have joined if I didn&#039;t believe in Medela products beforehand.
I have never suggested a Medela product as a result of my affiliation, and I only suggest products or techniques to someone with a need to pump such as for work or donation.  m
My views and recommendations are consistent with the ones I voiced prior to working with Medela.

My Medela pump allowed me to provide breastmilk exclusively while working with my first baby. This time I have only pumped milk to donate, as I&#039;m staying at home.  

Lauredhel-being a Mom Maven does not preclude a person from having independant and relevant thoughts.  I am working on a related post-i&#039;m torn about Medela&#039;s stance but I also think the code itself is partly to blame.  It is ambiguous and outdated regarding pumping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Mom Maven myself I have not noticed suggested topics to discuss on the newsletters. There is no appreciable material gain from the program, and I wouldn&#8217;t have joined if I didn&#8217;t believe in Medela products beforehand.<br />
I have never suggested a Medela product as a result of my affiliation, and I only suggest products or techniques to someone with a need to pump such as for work or donation.  m<br />
My views and recommendations are consistent with the ones I voiced prior to working with Medela.</p>
<p>My Medela pump allowed me to provide breastmilk exclusively while working with my first baby. This time I have only pumped milk to donate, as I&#8217;m staying at home.  </p>
<p>Lauredhel-being a Mom Maven does not preclude a person from having independant and relevant thoughts.  I am working on a related post-i&#8217;m torn about Medela&#8217;s stance but I also think the code itself is partly to blame.  It is ambiguous and outdated regarding pumping.</p>
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		<title>By: How to report unethical promotion of formula, bottles and other breastmilk substitutes &#124; PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-42243</link>
		<dc:creator>How to report unethical promotion of formula, bottles and other breastmilk substitutes &#124; PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Heinz continue to violate the code regularly, as do bottle manufacturers such as Avent, Medela and many others. Despite what they may tell you, these companies are more focused on profits than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Heinz continue to violate the code regularly, as do bottle manufacturers such as Avent, Medela and many others. Despite what they may tell you, these companies are more focused on profits than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-38127</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. I wrote the post Annie linked to before I was part of the Maven program.
2. I have been upfront about my connections with Medela at all times.
3. I knew about this post not from Medela but because Annie e-mailed me before she wrote it.
4. I am not being paid to say anything and this is not marketing.
5. I have yet to fill out their report form for anything.

If you think that signing up to receive e-mails from a company I already liked biases me, then you obviously know nothing about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I wrote the post Annie linked to before I was part of the Maven program.<br />
2. I have been upfront about my connections with Medela at all times.<br />
3. I knew about this post not from Medela but because Annie e-mailed me before she wrote it.<br />
4. I am not being paid to say anything and this is not marketing.<br />
5. I have yet to fill out their report form for anything.</p>
<p>If you think that signing up to receive e-mails from a company I already liked biases me, then you obviously know nothing about me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dou-la-la</title>
		<link>http://www.phdinparenting.com/2010/01/25/information-advertising-spam-medela-crosses-the-line/#comment-38125</link>
		<dc:creator>Dou-la-la</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Amber, on this one issue, I DO have a recommendation.  The Lact-Aid is not only a comparable product to the SNS - same basic idea, an at-the-breast supplementer with a feeding tube - but I actually think it is a far *superior* product, having used both. The Lact-Aid is about a gazillion times more user-friendly, and more effective at improving a baby&#039;s latch. (Maybe I should do side by-side comparison one of these days - note to self.) And I honestly would have said this (and HAVE said this, in fact) long before finding out about Medela&#039;s recent shenanigans. 

I realize that this one product doesn&#039;t change the overall problem of knowing what to recommend in place of some of the other Medela products, but I just had to put it out there. The Lact-Aid saved our nursing relationship. no question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Amber, on this one issue, I DO have a recommendation.  The Lact-Aid is not only a comparable product to the SNS &#8211; same basic idea, an at-the-breast supplementer with a feeding tube &#8211; but I actually think it is a far *superior* product, having used both. The Lact-Aid is about a gazillion times more user-friendly, and more effective at improving a baby&#8217;s latch. (Maybe I should do side by-side comparison one of these days &#8211; note to self.) And I honestly would have said this (and HAVE said this, in fact) long before finding out about Medela&#8217;s recent shenanigans. </p>
<p>I realize that this one product doesn&#8217;t change the overall problem of knowing what to recommend in place of some of the other Medela products, but I just had to put it out there. The Lact-Aid saved our nursing relationship. no question.</p>
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